Jessica Lynch, 507th Maint Bn, RESCUED!

[Maverick]

Originally posted by miko2d

Maverick: Miko, You obviously need to research the geneva convention. I'm sure your training in the ussr didn't cover it. I'm sure because of the absolutely stupid post you made.

 Maveric,  I described the general methods of psychological torture that pose small risk to life or even physical health and indicated that it is what Iraqis might have been doing.

 
 miko

I am responding to you to reiterate that you need to research the geneva convention. The "tactics" you posted that caused my response to you are expressly forbidden against uniformed armed or unarmed combatants.

I would like you to point out in the quote above anywhere I have used the word justify or the phrase that you were justifying the use of these "tactics".

Your name doesn't cause any reaction on the part of my knees.
 I never knew you were interested in my knees. Perhaps it is a good thing you are on the other side of the continent. My knees take comfort in the distance.

[Syzygyone]

This idea deserve it's own Post

[davidpt40]

Here are some things I am disappointed with in Gulf War 2:

(1)  I didnt get to see a single person killed on camera.  All I saw were a *few* dead bodies.  BORING.  However on one channel I did see British troops fire into a house, throw a flashbang, and someone ran out on fire.  I'm a big kid now, let me see what war is all about.  

(2) Whenever CNN or Fox would report U.S. troops getting killed, they would not give any details. Thats crap reporting.  If I were a war correspondant, I would give exact details "Pvt So&So was lying prone looking through his binoculars when he was shot in the forehead".  Makes it much more personal and interesting.  "2 Marines were killed today near Basra"  BORING

(3)  The coverage of the capture of Baghdad was very poor.  The thing I remember was a bunch of reporters of jabbering and a few clips of a tree-lined road.  

(4)  The reporters didn't know the difference between a tank and a humvee.  From "b17 stealth bombers" to calling everything with wheels or tracks a "tank".  Oh well.

[Airhead]

david, if you had another brain it would die of loneliness. LOL No offense, but you're just about the most clueless kid I've ever read a post from.

[Saurdaukar]

I just found out one of my buddies over there was one of those in the group that rescued J. Lynch!!!!  

[boxboy28]

As i said before my Brother was the one who flew that group who saved her out after they were done!  He said he cant tell me the stories in email as they all get checked but when he gets home boy oh boy!

[Saurdaukar]

Definately cool.    I hadnt even opened up this post until today.  I got off the phone with my bud's mother and she told me he was one of the grunts they sent in (hes pretty highly trained - dunno if you can even call him a grunt anymore).

Good for him I say - 6 years ago before he went in he tried to kill himself - talk about a doing a 180!

He's a soldier's soldier - no girl, no family, all country.  

[mauser]

Been reading "SEALs, UDT/SEAL Operations in Vietnam" by T.L. Bosilijevac.  It sounds like one of the most gratifying missions was the rescue of POWs (Americans AND allies).  Mazz, boxboy pls congratulate them on a job well done!  

mauser

[anonymous]

Originally posted by mauser
Been reading "SEALs, UDT/SEAL Operations in Vietnam" by T.L. Bosilijevac.  It sounds like one of the most gratifying missions was the rescue of POWs (Americans AND allies).  Mazz, boxboy pls congratulate them on a job well done!  

mauser

"bad bo" is a very smart dude. his books are from the 1% that you should actually trust. hes also a bad bellybutton operator.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by MrCoffee
Combat Swimmer by Rober A Gromely was my favorite special operator book. Death in the Jungle by Gary R Smith was pretty good also.

first guy you mention is a stand up guy.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by mauser
Been reading "SEALs, UDT/SEAL Operations in Vietnam" by T.L. Bosilijevac.  It sounds like one of the most gratifying missions was the rescue of POWs (Americans AND allies).  Mazz, boxboy pls congratulate them on a job well done!  

mauser

Uh... Exactly how many POWs were rescued in Viet Nam? Hint: The answer is less than one.

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Airhead
Uh... Exactly how many POWs were rescued in Viet Nam? Hint: The answer is less than one.

youre talking rescued from a pow camp and in that case you are correct. there were guys who were rescued before they were hustled off to a full blown pow camp. a pilot being herded by an enemy patrol that gets ambushed is still a pow until the patrol is wiped out. this happened more than once in VN.

[Airhead]

Originally posted by anonymous
youre talking rescued from a pow camp and in that case you are correct. there were guys who were rescued before they were hustled off to a full blown pow camp. a pilot being herded by an enemy patrol that gets ambushed is still a pow until the patrol is wiped out. this happened more than once in VN.

I beg your pardon but I believe you are incorrect. First of all to the best of my knowledge virtually all of our POWs were aviators shot down well over North Vietnam and once captured there was no chance of recovery and, secondly, in the South the Viet Cong never took prisoners because they used gurella hit and run tatics and couldn't be slowed by prisoners. If they did, however, attempt to march a grunt up the Ho Chi Minh trail and were ambushed they would have killed the grunt straight away. Sorry to burst your bubble, but to the best of my knowledge there was never a specific mission designed to recover POWs, much less a POW actually rescued.

[mauser]

Maybe I should've been more specific, although I'm not sure why it's such a big deal.  The POW rescues I've read about so far are mostly ARVN that were captured during the Tet Offensive.  I guess I shoulda specified that the Americans rescued so far as my reading were prevented from being POWs.  Geesh.

anonymous:  That was one of the reasons why I got the book.  I read it was his thesis during grad school.  His sources are unit histories, periodicals, books obtained from the Naval Historical Center.  

btw..  repeating my congrats to Mazz's bud and boxboy's bro for a job well done.


mauser

[anonymous]

Originally posted by Airhead
I beg your pardon but I believe you are incorrect. First of all to the best of my knowledge virtually all of our POWs were aviators shot down well over North Vietnam and once captured there was no chance of recovery and, secondly, in the South the Viet Cong never took prisoners because they used gurella hit and run tatics and couldn't be slowed by prisoners. If they did, however, attempt to march a grunt up the Ho Chi Minh trail and were ambushed they would have killed the grunt straight away. Sorry to burst your bubble, but to the best of my knowledge there was never a specific mission designed to recover POWs, much less a POW actually rescued.

no pardon required dude. but plenty of pilots shot down in SVN and in locations that were not well over NVN. pows were rescued before being collected at pow camps on more than one occasion. ive talked to guys who were my instructors way back when who were on these ops. as for a mission designed to rescue pows look up the son tay raid.