Classic French

[straffo]

Originally posted by Hortlund
Suddenly all my animosity towards the french seems so very justified.

you pretend being rationnal now ?

This post is 1/3 rationnal too.

[gatt]

Wrong, this thread should be renamed "classic idiots and criminals". The whole Europe is in a strange situation.

In Spain (officially supporting USA) there is about 90% (IIRC) of the people against the war against Iraq.

Germany and France are strongly against war but are afraid to lose their business in the whole area. In the meantime, they allow USA to use her bases there.

In Italy (officially supporting the USA) more than 60% of the people is against any war.
However, we have more than 5,000 troops abrod involved in peacekeeping or peacenforcing (sp?) missions. About 1,500 italian mountain and special forces are in Afghanistan patrolling Kabul and the Pakistan border.
This raised a lot of criticism from the left wing of the parliament. Those same leftists sent our Tornado to bomb Serbia some time ago, without the permission of ONU.
Besides, Italy doesnt allow USA to use her bases to launch attacks against Iraq (the recent departure of USA paras from Italy created a big problem inside and outside the parliament).

I see idiots and bastards everywhere. It depends on your POV.

What I find disgusting is that many european politicians consider this war only as a mean for their political ends.

[Martlet]

We launch whatever we want from whatever base we want, depending on our interests.  While we try to respect the wishes of the gov'ts in whose borders our bases sit, we are certainly not beholden to them.

[Saintaw]

Tagging poeple under a same brand because they were born on a particular part of soil is utter cretinism.
You sure qualify for that Hortlund

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by Saintaw
Tagging poeple under a same brand because they were born on a particular part of soil is utter cretinism.
You sure qualify for that Hortlund

Well Saw, am I judging them on their nationality or on their opinions? Surely you agree that its ok to call an idiot an idiot.

So, I have a poll saying that 33% of the entire French population wants Saddam to win this war. That means there are more Frenchmen who wants to see Saddam win this war than there is Iraqis. Does that sound insane to you? And you really should adress the why question too. Why does 33% of THE ENTIRE FRENCH POPULATION want Saddam to win this war? Why is that Saw? Why?

Moving on, I also have the track record of Chirac-le-worm, he was elected by something like 80% of the French population. And polls in France has shown that his actions in this conflict has had a massive support by the French population.

So...the case against the French so far:
The elected Chirac and they supported his policy. This policy led to a delay of the war that will cause additional casualties beause the US/UK coalition will be forced to fight a war in sandstorm/hot as owen-season. That was before the war started. AFTER the war started, 33% of the French population sided with Saddam, one of the most brutal murderous barbaric dictators there is.

Granted there might be some normal French guys who opposed Chirac (20%) who opposed his policy (even less than 20%) and who support the US/UK coalition now (33%). I have no quarrel with those guys. The rest can ** **** themselves ** **** ******* ******** ************* *****!

But since 80% of them elected Chirac-le-maggot, I think it is fair to use the term "the french" instead of saying "all the french guys except the handful that did not vote for Chirac and who opposed his policy and who supports the war now".

[Naso]

Originally posted by Martlet
We launch whatever we want from whatever base we want, depending on our interests.  While we try to respect the wishes of the gov'ts in whose borders our bases sit, we are certainly not beholden to them.

What an arrogance, mister.

You seem to know very well how to make new friends.

BTW, I guess you are little wrong, about this, or maybe not.

[straffo]

that's true 1/3 of me is supporting  saddam ...

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by straffo
that's true 1/3 of me is supporting  saddam ...

LOL based on your previous posts on this matter I'd say its pretty obvious to anyone who can read that you are firmly in the "was supporting Chirac's policy"- camp.

[Dowding]

We launch whatever we want from whatever base we want, depending on our interests. While we try to respect the wishes of the gov'ts in whose borders our bases sit, we are certainly not beholden to them.

How are US relations with Turkey going?

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Dowding
How are US relations with Turkey going?

pretty good, thanks for asking.

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Naso
What an arrogance, mister.

You seem to know very well how to make new friends.

BTW, I guess you are little wrong, about this, or maybe not.

Are you saying I'm wrong, or I'm right?  If you are saying I'm wrong, read your post first.  You prove my point yourself.

As for arrogance, yes, I am.

As for friends...well, it's always lonely at the top.

[Dowding]

Pretty good? Does 'good' have a different meaning in your part of the world?

Your original assertion was called for what it is (arrogant hot air).

[straffo]

Originally posted by Hortlund
LOL based on your previous posts on this matter I'd say its pretty obvious to anyone who can read that you are firmly in the "was supporting Chirac's policy"- camp.

How it put me in the 1/3 side ?

[Martlet]

Originally posted by Dowding
Pretty good? Does 'good' have a different meaning in your part of the world?

Your original assertion was called for what it is (arrogant hot air).

how is it not good?  explain please.

[Hortlund]

Originally posted by straffo
How it put me in the 1/3 side ?

It doesnt, but it puts you in the
"The rest can ** **** themselves ** **** ******* ******** ************* *****!"
-category.

..sorry