Author Topic: B-1 video (Read 1945 times)

fffreeze220 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:09:34 AM »

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Originally posted by mjolnir
Oh yes, very possible. That's what's so cool about it.

I got a chance to fly in the B-1 simulator at McConnell AFB (before the B-1 drawdown). They told me that if the plane is hugging the deck (it's capable of flying at 200 feet at 550 kts with terrain following radar), they can kick in the power and it can be up to 14,000 feet in 30 seconds. I tried it. It worked. The plane can also do aileron rolls, although they are discouraged.

It set all sorts of world records for speed, climb rate, payload, and distance. Probably a few other categories I'm forgetting too.

I thought i ididnt see right when i looked at that film lol.

Rasker · « **Reply #46 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:20:43 AM »

ever seen the pic of the Lancer blasting at low alt over some mountain lake with a nice big shockwave on the water? I think Rockwell distributes it.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #47 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:24:59 AM »

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Originally posted by mjolnir
Possibly the F-35 (JSF) when they get that working. It has thrust vectoring too. Not sure if the one engine has enough **** behind it to make it all the way around though.

But the F-35 cannot perform flips like the Su-37 because it doesnt have the aerodynamic properties like the SU-37 or MiG-29. But what's good about the F-35 is that it can "supercruise".

mjolnir · « **Reply #48 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:35:31 AM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
But the F-35 cannot perform flips like the Su-37 because it doesnt have the aerodynamic properties like the SU-37 or MiG-29. But what's good about the F-35 is that it can "supercruise".

Look at my earlier conversation with GScholz, it's the F-22 that has supercruise, not the F-35.

Here's a link so you can see the difference:

http://www.lmaeronautics.com/products/combat_air/x-35/index.html

funkedup · « **Reply #49 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:37:54 AM »

That cute flippy maneuver won't do much good when it's dodging slammers from F-22's that the Sukhoi can't even see.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #50 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:37:54 AM »

LOL im from los angeles and i fell in love with the Su-37's "high envelope manuverability"

Would F-35 outperform F/A-18s and F-16s? If not, the JSF is a bust.

funkedup · « **Reply #51 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:38:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Would F-35 outperform F/A-18s and F-16s? If not, the JSF is a bust.

I hate to break it to you, but airshow stunts don't count for too much in combat.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #52 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:41:04 AM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
That cute flippy maneuver won't do much good when it's dodging slammers from F-22's that the Sukhoi can't even see.

just pray that F-22s wont have to come close to Su-37 or else they've just flush that $120 million machine to the toilet bowl.

Ike 2K# · « **Reply #53 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:44:19 AM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
I hate to break it to you, but airshow stunts don't count for too much in combat.

The F-35 looks funny if you look at it sideways and it doesnt give me an impression that it can out-manuver F/A-18s and F-16s:D

mjolnir · « **Reply #54 on:** April 09, 2003, 03:49:34 AM »

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Originally posted by Rasker
ever seen the pic of the Lancer blasting at low alt over some mountain lake with a nice big shockwave on the water? I think Rockwell distributes it.

You mean this one?

It's artwork, not a real picture, but still cool.

Furball · « **Reply #55 on:** April 10, 2003, 08:03:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
Check this "Super manuverability" of the SU-37 Super Flanker equip with thrust-vectoring engine nossles. The Sukhoi Su-37 defies physics and if someone in a Western Fighter jet fights a Su-37 at close-range, you're toast.

unless a eurofighter typhoon pilot looks at it and decides to shoot it down

Furball · « **Reply #56 on:** April 10, 2003, 08:08:33 AM »

cool! i read a report from an RAF test pilot flying the typhoon for the first time. Its very impressive!

MoMoney · « **Reply #57 on:** April 10, 2003, 09:33:01 AM »

The Euro-Fighter will be the Be-yatch of the JSF and F-22...sorry but true............

Vermillion · « **Reply #58 on:** April 10, 2003, 09:42:54 AM »

The Russians do design some very nice aircraft, no arguement. But considering that they can hardly support and maintain the current generation of combat aircraft, let alone upgrade to the newer equipment, its a moot point isn't it?

AKIron · « **Reply #59 on:** April 10, 2003, 09:52:17 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
The F-22 is indeed an awesome machine, however its cost is not propotionate. Given equality in $ value a fleet of Eurofighters would be more capable than a fleet of F-22s. Fortunatelly for the USAF they can spend a lot more than any other nation.

Obviously the US isn't the land of unlimited resources but when only the best will do we spend the bucks.