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« on: April 09, 2003, 08:10:05 AM »
I think that there is room for  a vital role for the un in the rebuilding of iraq...

I believe that they should be the ones who collect money from all the members of the un who oppossed the war and the coalition and then they can use those funds to spread humanitarian aid.

France can send bad waiters.

Can't think of any use for russia or germany.
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Re: A "vital" role for the U.N. and france..
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2003, 08:17:47 AM »
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Can't think of any use for russia or germany.
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« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2003, 08:32:59 AM »
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« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2003, 08:43:55 AM »
you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....

you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....

do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....

are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....

stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....


wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.

France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....

congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....

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« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2003, 08:51:13 AM »
The Iraqi people know who liberated them, that's evident from the signs and cheers.


We won't give back the billions owed France and Russia, perhaps they should have collected up front from their illegal arms sales.   Not to mention the billions they have made bilking oil from Iraq.

Germany, France, and Russia are not 3rd world countries, you are correct.  But they are close.  We listen to them all the time.  We take their position into consideration, weigh the effects of not listening to them, then act in our best interest.

The coalition will oversee setting up the new gov't in Iraq, the UN will not.

The coalition will oversee rebuilding Iraq, the UN will not.

Germany, France, and Russia will whine and stamp their feet, but be powerless to do anything about it.

They were quite content to let the Iraqi people live under Saddam's regime, and interviews with the incoming leaders in Iraq show this.  They know who their friends are.

Go cry on each other's shoulders.

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« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2003, 08:53:45 AM »
Maybe they can all get together and do the research and documentation on what happened to all the Iraqis that just disappeared into Saddam's prison system.
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« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2003, 09:03:52 AM »
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are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....

Hussein owes that money.  Russia and France extended him a multi-billion dollar line of credit, now they get shafted.

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stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....

Ask Iraqi Arabs what they think of the UN.

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« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2003, 09:05:07 AM »
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Hussein owes that money.  Russia and France extended him a multi-billion dollar line of credit, now they get shafted.

 


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« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2003, 09:05:42 AM »
3rd world country?  wasn't this suppossed to be a quagmire?  another vietnam?   what happened to all the iraquis dropping burning rags on our imperialist tanks?   What happened to the 1,000's of dead coalition forces and the fierce house to house urban warfare?  

slo.... admit it... yu are pissed that the U.S. and England fielded the best trained, best equipped and best led army of all times and did in a way that was a benchmark for humanitarian warfare..  You are pissed that every day it is bieng proven that we were right and most of all....

the french were wrong and irrelevant.
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2003, 09:17:05 AM »
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3rd world country?  wasn't this suppossed to be a quagmire?  another vietnam?   what happened to all the iraquis dropping burning rags on our imperialist tanks?   What happened to the 1,000's of dead coalition forces and the fierce house to house urban warfare?  

slo.... admit it... yu are pissed that the U.S. and England fielded the best trained, best equipped and best led army of all times and did in a way that was a benchmark for humanitarian warfare..  You are pissed that every day it is bieng proven that we were right and most of all....

the french were wrong and irrelevant.
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you live in your own bubble you created lazs, as usual, you listen too yourself talk....

I was against the formula your govr. used too start this.....which is the PRE-EMPTIVE Doctrine...still against that today.

did you do good is IRAQ....yes

but wooow wait a minute....IRAQ IS A 3rd WORLD COUNTRY.....you just fought a 3rd world country....I really don't think the Russians woulda been so easy....even with your new warfare tactics.....


the UN will give the new Iraqis Govr. the legitimacy it needs to be part of the world body.....not the US....you liberated a tyranical leader...yes...now get out...or occupation will be considered by arabs....Jews have that trouble today....

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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2003, 09:18:44 AM »
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you live in your own bubble you created lazs, as usual, you listen too yourself talk....

I was against the formula your govr. used too start this.....which is the PRE-EMPTIVE Doctrine...still against that today.

did you do good is IRAQ....yes

but wooow wait a minute....IRAQ IS A 3rd WORLD COUNTRY.....you just fought a 3rd world country....I really don't think the Russians woulda been so easy....even with your new warfare tactics.....


the UN will give the new Iraqis Govr. the legitimacy it needs to be part of the world body.....not the US....you liberated a tyranical leader...yes...now get out...or occupation will be considered by arabs....Jews have that trouble today....



keep sitting on the sidelines stomping your feet.

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« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2003, 09:18:55 AM »
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you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....



No, I think the fact that the Iraqi people elect their government will give them the legitimacy that the UN can't.

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you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....

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They'll send their representatives wherever they want to, neither the U.S. led coalition nor the UN lead gutless cowards will control them.

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do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....

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No, we don't want to control what the rest of the world thinks, evidently the UN and the coalition of gutless cowards does though. Want Canada to join them? Be our guest.

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are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....

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Why should we? The French and the Russians sold illegal weapons and materials to the Iraqis. Are you so stupid as to think the U.S. should pay the French and the Russians for something that they shouldn't have sold to begin with?

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stay there and decide the future of IRAQ....you become Imperialist....ask the ARABS what they think of Imperialism.....

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We aren't staying. As soon as the Iraqi citizens can set up their own government, we're out of there. The U.K. has already found an Iraqi to set up and get started in Basra. But then, you knew that, or you would if you were that smart and cared more about Iraq than you do about hating the U.S.

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wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.

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No, we fought a despicable murderous dictator who threatened the world and savagely brutalized a nation. Something the rest of the world couldn't seem to find the courage to do. You're somewhat welcome.

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France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....

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No, but they are quickly degenerating into that class. Especially when they refuse to help clean up the mess they helped create. Sure, we'll listen to them whine, the racket is deafening, it almost drowns out the whimpering coming from up north. Monkey brains? Oh, you mean Chirac, or his panty waisted hump boy that is prime minister of that little colony of his in Montreal?

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congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....

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Someone had to do it, the gutless cowards in the UN, like France, Russia, and Germany never would have done it. Not in a month, not in a year, and not even in a decade.

Oh, and we don't need your congratulations, the gratitude of the Iraqi citizens is far more rewarding than your meaningless whimpering drivel.

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« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2003, 09:29:48 AM »
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(1)  you guys actually think the US will give the new IRAQ govr. Legitimacy.....

(2)  you actually think the new IRAQ govr. is gonna send its new FM to the US and not the UN.....

(3)  do you actually think you will control the rest of the worlds opinions.....

(4)  are you gonna give back the billions of dollars that the IRAQIS owed Russia and France.....

(5)  wow....you fought a 3rd world country......congrats.

(6)  France Germany Russia are NOT 3rd world countries.....trust me....you will listen to em when they whine....thats if monkey brains is smart enough to understand that....

(7)  congrats on liberating a 3rd world countries people from its tyranical leaders....



1.)  Since were currently in the process of removing the current government, we'll cross the "new government" bridge when we get to it.

2.)  Im sure the Iraq FM will be sent to the UN.  Whats your point here?

3.)  No.  We have no reason to control your opinion because, quite frankly, it doesnt really matter.

4.)  "Give back?"  The money is owed to France et al by Saddam, not Iraq, and not the United States.  We understand that youre upset you wont be seeing any of the return on weapons and goods supplied to Iraq on credit, but hey - you win some, you loose some.  

5.)  My President can beat up your President.  

6.)  Great example of a deperate please for attention.  France, Germany and Russia are not third world countries, youre right, but lets not overstate their importance either.  All three countries are behaving like a child who has not gotten their cup cake before nap time.  Second world - best scenario.

7.)  Thank you.  It wasnt easy, but it was worth it.  Stop whining or we add the forementioned second world countires to our "list."

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2003, 09:30:01 AM »
The Iraqi army is/was the 6th largest in the world....3rd world? I think not, and if they are 3rd world what dose that say about the French/Russian/Germany military that sold them their weapons?
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« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2003, 11:12:26 AM »
you notice that its ONLY americans saying my opinion means nothing.....

you notice Blair telling Bush that HE HAS TO INCLUDE the UN.....


for the World Bank org. Irak is considered a 3rd world country....you want proof...go search it yourself.


you guys are on a high dose right now...understandable.