Al Jeerez reporting that Saddam is in Russian Embassy

[-Concho-]

I can see how we might  have accidentally shot the russian diplomats, hell we shot at our own from time to time.

sh*t happens and sometimes people die, kinda the way of the world.

guess the russians learned a valuable leason.

[Toad]

Was thinking that earlier Concho.

While the Friendly Fire incidents are continually the subject of more and more prevention efforts, they still happen.

[Frogm4n]

IN SOVIET RUSSIA WEOPONS SALE YOU. HAHAHAHASHAHAHAHASH LOLolLOMFGROTFL

[Suave]

Originally posted by Boroda
Poland sold them most of their T-72s.

Free Poland or pre 1991 Soviet, warsaw pact Poland ?

I allready know the answer. I just find it humorous that Poland and Czech Republic are listed on the chart as if they were not  part of warsaw pact. As if they could partake in international commerce independant of the USSR . As if the profits did not go to the USSR .

[Smut]

Originally posted by Boroda
Well, I think you have some ideas on how US deals with casuality numbers. I don't know about soldiers body count, but aircraft  combat losses are minimised by different tricks. For example: when the AC is shot down and falls down on friendly territory it's not a combat loss...

As someone that has first hand knowledge of USN/USMC aircraft losses (in combat or otherwise), I can quite clearly state that you are wrong on this point.

Not that you will believe me, since I work for the DoN...I'm just spouting official "lies" in your mind.

At least I'm not a pirate and a thief.

-Smut

[Zembla]

I'm amazed...

Instead of putting aside the views of your government, or even your personal views, you let them control your statements, and your views. It might be hard for you guys to realise that CNN.com isn't as objective as they wish, and therefore is far from a credible news source. At this point the only journalists the US likes to keep near them are the ones that are screened thoroughly and are certain not to sumbit too damaging news reports, no problem that's normal. (N.B. The journalists that aren't allowed are shot at by a tank... as it appears) And I guess it's kinda normal that you guys back your troops in Iraq and your government and believe all the news you're fed through prime time every day...
What I DON'T get is that at least SOME of you are sceptical enough to see through the smoke screen, you guys like to say you were "the first democracy" (which isn't even completely true) and you guys like to use the words "freedom" and "liberty" a gazillion times a day, but you are forgetting to USE that freedom, somewhere in between Clinton and Bush you forgot to be free enough not to believe everything they say to you... I mean, when Clinton was screwing Lewinski you were even bold enough to suggest a direct empeachment procedure, that's if Clinton would be stupid enough to let his private life interfere with his work, which he didn't! And now, when your accidental president (hell he's not even really elected, but somehow I guess you guys in here all voted for mr George W. ?) is threatening to use his military to establish a democracy in a country he's got NO control over.
You see the United Nations were founded in order to prevent some force from becoming SO blinded by its own size that it would just invade other countries, right now the US is doing nothing better than Saddam, they're invading Iraq, Iraq invaded Kuwait, why do you guys think you have the power to play judge for the whole world? Don't you see, it's NOT DEMOCRATIC, and a democracy was the thing you people were trying to install right...?

Suuuure, Saddam is an a--hole, sure, I hate him as much as you do, but that doesn't give you the right to invade other countries...

Well I have nothing against the Americans, it's your current government which by its egocentrical and selfsufficient attitude kicks me in the groin... either way, I guess most Europeans would've voted Gore anyway

I'm not sure if I'll reread this thread, I'm not going to waste my time on a flame war, and I'm absolutely positive some of you will try to drag me down to that...

NO media is objective, NONE... you're looking at the world through a dampened mirror

[edit]I'm always shocked when I hear people saying stuff about someone else's crimes, while forgetting their own, there is blood at the hands of EVERY nation in the world, especially the US and Russia (well maybe not Tibet )[/edit]

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

You wanna tell us why five news agencies are reporting that the Russian newspapers are reporting that the Russian diplomatic convoy was trying to smuggle secret archive documents out of the country for Saddam Hussein?

How about you post links to THAT article.


How about you tell us why Russians are smuggling for Saddam Hussien, AGAIN?

I won't hold my breath waiting for an honest answer from you and your country, neither of you have given an honest answer anyway.

Oh yeah, what's this about Pravda claiming that the bombing in Iraq and Afghanistan causing geological problems in Russia that will result in mass flooding?

Maybe you should consider using all that "pravda" you guys have for what its intended for, fertilizer. I'm sure the resulting agriculture boom will result in an economic recovery the likes of which the world has never seen.

[Suave]

Zembla's post reminds me of the girl in the "Nickelodeon diplomacy" radio conversation .

"Somewhere between Clinton and Bush we've lost our way" LMAO, classic .

[Mini D]

Hey... way to go on the Baroda support group showing in full force.

Why didn't we question the chart?  I dunno... it just seems to be a standard chart for any lunatic dictator ran country.  I mean... its not like that chart would aply for North Korea too.  Its not like those three companies at the top of the list have a "we sell any weapon to anyone" tag on their embassy door.

As for why Baroda is getting jumped:

Read the board some more.  Its pretty much invited these days.  Someone comes in with only media reports to back him up and makes claims as if they were fact screaming that any other media reports are bias and only his media isn't.  Its nice that three people with the same beliefs come in to convince everyone else they are brainwashed.  I tell you what... you're support group needs to find something else to talk about.  You've already convinced yourselves that Americans are mindless and understand nothing and only the Russian media has the balls to present it right... especially if they are presenting it as anti-American (not like they too are trying to give their customers what they want ).

A Russian convoy is caught in the crossfires.  The Russian contingent choses to believe it was all the Americans fault.  The Russian contingent fails to realize that the Russians were warned to leave Baghdad months before.  The Russian contingent fails to realize that the diplomats were driving through a war zone.  The Russian contingent fails to realize that the Russians may or may not have let their departure plans be known, but it is guaranteed they did not ask for U.S. escort out of the city.

People that insisted on staying in the middle of a war are upset because they became casualties.  How fricking ironic.  And how ironic that they come here insisting that it was everyone else's fault.

MiniD

[Suave]

Originally posted by Boroda
Well, Ramzaj reports were very interesting, and didn't contain obvious lies like "coalition" reports.

What spectacular examples of misseducation we have seen as of late, the Iraqi Information minister, and our very own Zampolit of AH, Boroda .

 "If you can't be a good example, be a horrible reminder"

 Boroda you remind us of everything the free world stands against, for this we thank you, don't ever change, we need you. You just can't get this stuff at a museum or the history channel .

[lazs2]

Are there any russians in the U.S. that arent into organized crime?
lazs

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Actually, Zembla, some lost there way between Bush #1 and Bush #2, so we got Clinton. Enough people decided to vote, and the courts decided they wouldn't attempt to elect a president by litigation, so we avoided Gore. When you have ironclad proof that Gore won, you post it here. It's been proven time and time again that he lost. He didn't even come close to carrying his home state. Since you're an EXPERT on U.S. elections, why don't you tell us all about that?

Regarding the creation of the UN. The UN was created because the League of Nations was paralyzed and refused to act in regards to Hitler and Hirohito, and therefore became impotent. Notice the parallel. The UN has become paralyzed and refused to act in regards to Hussien, even after 12 years. The UN is now impotent and irrelevant.

It is interesting to note that YOU are a recent addition, having only one post prior. You and Malin and terror_72AG, whatever he is. I find myself wondering, what brings you here? Boroda invite you to spew and run? You joined in the last couple of days, likely have never played the game, come in here and spew a bunch of drivel in defense of Boroda and his current indefensible position, and then say "I'll likely not come back and read this thread again so flame me if you want". What you SHOULD have said is that you are going to spew and run because you cannot support your position either.

Here is a really practical idea for you 4. Come to America, at our invitation. Since you are so desperately in love with Clinton, Gore, and the UN, take the whole lot of them home with you. While you're at it, you can provide Clinton and Gore with a pension, and complete round the clock protection every where they go. Build the UN a new HQ building, and provide maintenance and security for that building, and security for all those extra homes and embassies for all the diplomats. While you're at it, provide the VAST majority of the money, the military equipment, and the military manpower for the UN. And make absolutely certain that you cater to their every whim, and that you do exactly as they wish. Do it for about 50 years and then come back and tell us all how great it is and how good it was for your country.

You four fine gentlemen meet some where in Europe and have yourselves a nice group hug and tell each other how great you are, and pat yourselves on the back for that wonderful job you're doing for all humanity.

[Martlet]

Looks like Baroda either

A:  Made numerous accounts on this board

or

B:  Was so upset at being made to look like a fool, he called every russian with a computer.

To bad none of them can afford to play the game.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

to be honest, I haven't reupped my subscription yet, my computer is choking on AH again, it's time to build a new rig. The last time I flew AH was during the big free trial. I was on a night mission in a Jug and it locked my computer solid. The resulting crash did enough damage it took three weeks to get the thing back up and running, I came close to having to do a full hard format, that would have cost me months of important data. On the other hand, I've been flying off and on, and hanging around AH for a couple years, I'm no "Yakov come lately".

[Dowding]

I'm glad people don't need subscriptions to post to this board. So much would be lost if that wasn't the case.