Underground Nucleur lab discovered

[Glasses]

Scholz there was a top Iraqui scientist saying that after the Israeli bombing they  on purpose spilt some radioactive material to blame the Israeli goverment he unwillingly helped to do so, and shortly afterwards he fled the country. He explicitly said they had removed most of the radioactive material from the  Nuke plant because they had some intel the Israelis were about to do so.

I'll get you the name of the scientist when he appears again.

[CMC Airboss]

Originally posted by vorticon
uh oh...who would expect plutonium under a nuclear powerplant... i always knew there was something fishy about that place

Why would a country with one of the largest stores of energy producing resources on the planet need a nucleur powerplant? For one reason:

"Plutonium for weapons is made differently (than that made for powerplants sic), in simple reactors (usually fuelled with natural uranium) run for that purpose, with frequent fuel changes (ie. low burn-up). This, coupled with the application of international safeguards, effectively rules out the use of commercial nuclear power plants."

(par. 25  http://www.uic.com.au/nip18.htm)

The power producing grade of plutonium is wholly unsuitable for use as a weapon, due to its unpredictable nature.  It becomes more and more unpredictable as it is used to produce power.  So if the plutonium was found in the factility and not in the reactor, it is highly likely it was being saved/used for another purpose.  It only takes 10 kilograms to produce a bomb.  

MiG

[Gyro/T69]

"That may very well be true, but not my point. This storage may be a waste dump for the radioactive coolant of the destroyed reactor. How do other nations store this stuff?"

The reactor never came online. Israel knocked it out before that.


"Why would a country with one of the largest stores of energy producing resources on the planet need a nucleur powerplant?"

 I'm sure Saddam was worried about the pollution caused by the filthy oil. He was looking for a clearer source of power for the good of his people.

[Samiam]

Originally posted by Kweassa
A lab isn't a weapon.

 Would they have produced a weapon and tried to use it? Most highly possible, but not absolutely.

 After all, the very regime has fallen and we still haven't seen any use of "weapons of mass destruction" against anyone. The only instance was the big fiasco where everyone got excited and started cursing Iraq when they HEARD that some US soldiers were donning chemical-protectove gears. Woops, sorry, false alarm.

 Now, you guys are trying to justify the invasion against Iraq with the discovery of a lab which might have produced a 'weapon of mass destruction' which 'might' have been used against some country or countries.

 What's that spell?


 Retribution against a crime that hasn't been committed yet.

 The 'aggressive agenda to fight against terrorism' your country is pushing, is something that shakes the very fundament of justice which the democratic ideology has held on to for a very long time.

Your logic isn't sound, Kweassa. These actions are very consistent with our democratic principles.

You are correct that we don't (yet) prosecute someone for owning a gun under the reasoning that they might commit armed robbery.

BUT, we certainly establish parole violations for known felons that set a different standard. A convicted felon on parole can be thrown into jail instantly just for being in the vicinity of a gun.

Saddam is (was?) a known felon: he invaded Kuwait unprovoked, he used WMD on his own population. The world  put him on parole in 1991. The conditions of that parole didn't state that he had to *use* WMD to be in violation, just any indication that he was trying to *develop* them was enough.

I'd say this is very consistent with our democratic principles.

[Scootter]

Originally posted by Kweassa

 I pray you people change course from the way of thinking that so obsessively grasped Americans since 9.11. Right now, I'm sorry to say it is terrifying to watch so many people craving for vengeance so bloodthirstily, like mad dogs. [/B]

Yep,

    What does that say to the world "don't allow terrorists to train and operate in you country or risk losing your control of your country"

since 9-11 I believe many Dictators have had sleepless nights and have reconsidered there support to terrorists that would attack us again.

Japan learned that the US will respond to an attack and it seems that some people just needed a history lesson.

Lets get one thing clear right now WE will take any action to protect our people and our nation. We risked many lives and much equipment. to rescue one privet, get it.

We somehow seem week to these Despots as they take our compassion as a weakness. This has changed in the last two years, lets see three buildings attacked and over 3000 people killed and now two countries have had regime change. Seems like we are one country short.

It is so very simple DON'T SUPPORT AND ALLOW TERRORESTS IN YOUR COUNTRY, what is so hard about that.

If this is the only kind of language that these *******s understand fine we can speak softly and carry a big stick.

Any other country want to help terrorists kill our people step up.

Terrorists MUST have a place to train and a government to provide them the resources to do there killing. This is what we are going to change, just watch.

[Bodhi]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Bodhi if that was baiting, it only shows how low my perception of you folks has sunk with this whole ordeal. I could actually believe you could have been serious while saying that.


And to Kweassa: We don't need to worry, if the US continues the war for a few months, let alone years, GWB will drive the whole economy down the toilet with huge budget deficit, high oil prices and the stock market going down the tubes.

GWB's little crusades will crush even the US economy if he's stupid enough to continue. It was difficult to get international support for even this offensive, let alone the next (theoretical) one.

Siaf, I could absolutely care less what you or your countries opinion of me or the US is.  

As far as I am concerned it is the placement of third world imbeciles in power at the UN that has allowed the world to degenerate to the level it has.  But we needn't worry about that for much longer, as we are on a roll that will likely end the UN for all except humanitarian aid.  

Ohh, and as for concerns over our economy, it is improving, I am investing and making money again as will the rest of the intelligent people in this country who see it for what it is.  

Sorry that your country is so insignificant that you feel it makes you better by bashing the US policies.  Don't like em?  The help make your country into a world power like we did, then you can set world policy too, until then, be brateful for the foreign aid we give your country each year.

'Nuff Said

[X2Lee]

Originally posted by Siaf__csf
Bodhi if that was baiting, it only shows how low my perception of you folks has sunk with this whole ordeal. I could actually believe you could have been serious while saying that.


And to Kweassa: We don't need to worry, if the US continues the war for a few months, let alone years, GWB will drive the whole economy down the toilet with huge budget deficit, high oil prices and the stock market going down the tubes.

GWB's little crusades will crush even the US economy if he's stupid enough to continue. It was difficult to get international support for even this offensive, let alone the next (theoretical) one.

You dont know crap about the economy. War is great for the economy.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by BigGun
What are you saying, we should just wait till they develop a nulear weapon & use it before we act? Your logic is so IGNORANT.

Iraq leaders claimed they had no weapons grade nuclear stuff. This just will confirm the already known.

"What an immense mass of evil must result, and indeed does result, from allowing men to assume the right of anticipating what may happen. - Leo Tolstoy, The Kingdom of God is Within You