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Offline Ike 2K#

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a new revolution
« on: April 10, 2003, 11:19:21 PM »
CAN we have a "5 point perk system"???

*here is my new vision of perking system.

*players have to play hard to get more advanced planes starting from non-perk, perk1,perk2,perk3,perk4,perk5, and perk6.

*i hope this new idea will make this game more interesting and more challenging for newbs and veterans alike.



Non perk planes:


JAPANESE

a6m2 zero
a6m5 zeke
D3A val
B5N2 kite

GERMAN

BF-109 E-4 emil
JU-87 stuka
JU-88 a4

British

huricane 1/2c/2d
spitfire 1
boston3

American

F4F-4 wildcat
FM2
P-40B
P-40E
A-20G
C-47
SBD-5
TBM-3

Italian

C.202

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Perk Points: 5


Japanese

KI-61
KI-67

German

109 F-4/G-2/G-6
110 C-4b
190 A5/F8

British

spitfire V
seafire IIC
Mosquito Mk VI

American

B-26
F6F-5 hellcat
P-51B
F4U-1 /1D
P-47D-11 /D-25

Italian

C.205

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

IL-2 Type 3
La-5FN
Yak-9T

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Perk Points: 20


Japanese

N1k2J

German

109 G10
110 G2
190 A-8/D-9

British

Spitfire IX
Landcaster III
Typhoon

American

B-17G
P-51 mustang
F4U-1C
F4U-4
P-38L
P-47D-30

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

la-7
Yak-9U

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Perk Points: 50

German

Ta-152H

British

Spitfire XIV
Tempest V

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Perk Points: 150

German

Me-163
Ar-234B
Me-262


* note that Me-262's perk points is lower than the current in Main Arena (256)
« Last Edit: April 11, 2003, 01:11:33 AM by Ike 2K# »

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« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2003, 11:39:27 PM »
I personally don't want to pay $15 dollars a month to "work hard" to get a better plane. I worked hard in real life while I was in the military, now I prefer to just play soldier. I don't want to play a ladder system. I don't want to be stuck in a crummy plane while guys who don't have a real life fly around in my dang spit. I can feel your pain about plane selection, but this is a game, we pay for it, we shouldn't have too many rules crammed down our throats. MHO.

There seems to be alot of "perk this" mentality on the boards. Exactly why?

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« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 11:53:01 PM »
alright, EDITED VERSION

Non perk planes:


JAPANESE

a6m2 zero
a6m5 zeke
D3A val
B5N2 kite

GERMAN

BF-109 E-4 emil
JU-87 stuka
JU-88 a4

British

huricane 1/2c/2d
spitfire 1
boston3

American

F4F-4 wildcat
FM2
P-40B
P-40E
A-20G
C-47
SBD-5
TBM-3

Italian

C.202

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Perk Points: 10


Japanese

KI-61
KI-67

German

109 F-4/G-2/G-6
110 C-4b
190 A5/F8

British

spitfire V
seafire IIC
Mosquito Mk VI

American

B-26
F6F-5 hellcat
P-51B
F4U-1 /1D
P-47D-11 /D-25

Italian

C.205

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

IL-2 Type 3
La-5FN
Yak-9T

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Perk Points: 50


Japanese

N1k2J

German

109 G10
110 G2
190 A-8/D-9

British

Spitfire IX
Landcaster III
Typhoon

American

B-17G
P-51 mustang
F4U-1C
F4U-4
P-38L
P-47D-30

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

la-7
Yak-9U

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Perk Points: 100

German

Ta-152H

British

Spitfire XIV
Tempest V

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Perk Points: 200

German

Me-163
Ar-234B
Me-262


* note that Me-262's perk points is lower than the current in Main Arena (256)

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« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2003, 12:33:04 AM »
ok now perks really do depend on how much you fly.


Do you have any idea how long it takes a fairly new player to earn 100 perks?  And what if that player only flys 10 hours a month cos he's a married man with a job and kids?

6 months of flying to earn a spit IX?  I dont think so......



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« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2003, 12:47:31 AM »
This idea will just lead to newbies being spanked en masse by KOTH winners in Tempests and 262s.

How about reducing the plane set for the higher ranking (as in lower number) guys instead - Naaaaaaaaahh.

How about a perk system where only the best performing aircraft of WWII are perked?? :)

Seriously though - good on you Ike for coming up with an idea that you've obviously thought about.

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« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2003, 12:58:13 AM »
ANOTHER EDITED VERSION (check this if this is a good idea)


Non perk planes:


JAPANESE

a6m2 zero
a6m5 zeke
D3A val
B5N2 kite

GERMAN

BF-109 E-4 emil
JU-87 stuka
JU-88 a4

British

huricane 1/2c/2d
spitfire 1
boston3

American

F4F-4 wildcat
FM2
P-40B
P-40E
A-20G
C-47
SBD-5
TBM-3

Italian

C.202

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Perk Points: 5


Japanese

KI-61
KI-67

German

109 F-4/G-2/G-6
110 C-4b
190 A5/F8

British

spitfire V
seafire IIC
Mosquito Mk VI

American

B-26
F6F-5 hellcat
P-51B
F4U-1 /1D
P-47D-11 /D-25

Italian

C.205

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

IL-2 Type 3
La-5FN
Yak-9T

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Perk Points: 20


Japanese

N1k2J

German

109 G10
110 G2
190 A-8/D-9

British

Spitfire IX
Landcaster III
Typhoon

American

B-17G
P-51 mustang
F4U-1C
F4U-4
P-38L
P-47D-30

Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

la-7
Yak-9U

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Perk Points: 50

German

Ta-152H

British

Spitfire XIV
Tempest V

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Perk Points: 150

German

Me-163
Ar-234B
Me-262


* note that Me-262's perk points is lower than the current in Main Arena (256)

** also note that spit 9 has been reduced to 20 pts vs 50
« Last Edit: April 11, 2003, 01:00:36 AM by Ike 2K# »

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« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2003, 01:05:02 AM »
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How about a perk system where only the best performing aircraft of WWII are perked?? :)

palef


Thats what im trying to propose for the next patch or next version (AH2)

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« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2003, 01:43:40 AM »
That is insanely restrictive.

Your suggested free planes would lead to utter domination by the Japanese (A6M5b) and Americans (FM2, P-40E, A-20G).  Nothing you gave the British, Germans or Italians as a freebie comes close to the four aircraft I mentioned.  The poor Russians get nothing, not even their sitting duck of an Il-2.

In your free category you have included 1944 aircraft (FM2, A6M5b) with 1939 aircraft for others (Spitfire Mk I (1938), Hurricane Mk I (1937), Bf109E-4 (1939))

You're 20 perk level includes an aircraft that is later and better than your 50 perk aircraft, and far, far better than the rest of the 20 point craft.

palef and Swoop have very correctly pointed out that new players or average players would get screwed by this idea.  People who fly, say, P-47s, P-38s, P-51s, Fw190s, Yaks, Tiffies, ect would be screwed. Make no mistake about it, many people pay to fly only one or two aircraft.


In short, this idea would kill HTC and AH if implimented.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2003, 01:54:45 AM »
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*here is my new vision of perking system.



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Re: a new revolution
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2003, 02:33:40 AM »
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
CAN we have a "5 point perk system"???

*here is my new vision of perking system.

*players have to play hard to get more advanced planes starting from non-perk, perk1,perk2,perk3,perk4,perk5, and perk6.

*i hope this new idea will make this game more interesting and more challenging for newbs and veterans alike.



Perks should not be based on what period, rarity or numbers that saw combat.  HiTech has perked planes that have been deemed to somehow effect the game balance within AH and that should be the only criteria used in whether or not a plane gets perked.


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« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2003, 06:58:13 AM »
I think it sounds pretty good...if applied in reverse and according to fighter ranks..........ie: anyone with a fighter rank under 250 would be limited to a choice of what Ike calles the non-perked planes; under 500 would be limited to the next set as well as the non-perked planes.....and so on until only the newbies can fly the 262s etc without paying perks.....................thi nk about it

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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2003, 07:07:14 AM »
or in other words.........limit the best pilots to the worst planes

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Re: a new revolution
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2003, 07:13:08 AM »
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
CAN we have a "5 point perk system"???

*here is my new vision of perking system.

*players have to play hard to get more advanced planes starting from non-perk, perk1,perk2,perk3,perk4,perk5, and perk6.

 


you're new aren't you?

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Re: Re: a new revolution
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2003, 07:31:59 AM »
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HiTech has perked planes that have been deemed to somehow effect the game balance within AH .


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Then why isn't the LA7 perked?

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« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2003, 07:54:45 AM »
or the pee 51 or d9?
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