Author Topic: how do you feel about the looting and disorder in Iraq? (Read 1548 times)

hawk220 · « **on:** April 11, 2003, 12:59:22 PM »

some say that the populace has earned the right to freak out and steal and burn and seek revenge against those that oppressed them for so long. I know they are making their rebuilding just that much more difficult.

approve or disapprove?

Mickey1992 · « **Reply #1 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:02:08 PM »

Looting the palaces is one thing. But looting needed government offices, hospitals, and banks is crap. The British got into a gun battle and killed some idiots looting a bank today.

I am curious to see what the curfiew will do.

Frogm4n · « **Reply #2 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:04:11 PM »

Its what happens when you "free" a country , and the people of that country had no hand in it. It leaves a leadership void, and if we dont take control fast i worry about the different groups of iraq fighting each other to break apart the country like yugoslavia.

Gyro/T69 · « **Reply #3 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:05:30 PM »

I dont think it's a matter of approving or disapproving until you'd walked in their shoes a bit. So, who am I to say.

ra · « **Reply #4 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:09:40 PM »

The first step in rebuilding Iraq will be to put a stop to this crap.

crowMAW · « **Reply #5 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:10:28 PM »

It is a rock-and-a-hard-place problem. It might have been a good idea to have a few MP battalions ready to go in as soon as towns were liberated so as to maintain order, but that might have been considered oppressive.

On the other hand, township officials have been begging the US military to help keep private property secure, so bringing in the MPs would have probably been the right thing to do.

miko2d · « **Reply #6 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:16:31 PM »

Anything that was owned by government and Ba'ath party was created by labor and resources of iraqi people and belongs to the iraqi people as a whole.
Looting and stealing it by individuals is looting and stealing from iraqi people. It cannot possibly be justified.

A lot of what's goingt on is robbery of other iraqi's property, wanton distraction of valuable resources, settling of personal scores and general crime.

miko

Kanth · « **Reply #7 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:20:50 PM »

They need to round up a group of iraqi's that are local to these areas and appoint them interim police forces..pay them for the job and put them at post.

having Coalition guards against iraqi looters is only going to heighten tensions.

There are plenty of unemployed iraqi's about the area..put them to work rebuilding and guarding their cities and pay them to do it.

that will solve a couple of problems.

rpm · « **Reply #8 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:32:35 PM »

Same thing happened in L.A. Must be some backward culture thingy.

crowMAW · « **Reply #9 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:39:01 PM »

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Originally posted by Kanth
They need to round up a group of iraqi's that are local to these areas and appoint them interim police forces..pay them for the job and put them at post.

The probelm is, how do we tell who to trust to fairly police? The Iraqis that we trusted to simply drive the trucks of free water to the people of Basra were selling it once the got there!

Yeager · « **Reply #10 on:** April 11, 2003, 01:49:17 PM »

Remember fellas, "it takes a villiage".....go figure that one out.

Eagler · « **Reply #11 on:** April 11, 2003, 02:28:19 PM »

rubber bullets and tear gas

Dowding · « **Reply #12 on:** April 11, 2003, 02:31:29 PM »

Are American troops going to be used as police?

Right now they aren't getting involved at all. I'm not sure about the situation down South.

It's one big cock-up. The Coalition is going to have to let mid-level Ba'athist types provide a police force and the rest of the municipal functions. There is no other way.

Kanth · « **Reply #13 on:** April 11, 2003, 02:37:29 PM »

how can you trust the police here??

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Originally posted by crowMAW
The probelm is, how do we tell who to trust to fairly police? The Iraqis that we trusted to simply drive the trucks of free water to the people of Basra were selling it once the got there!

Kanth · « **Reply #14 on:** April 11, 2003, 02:40:58 PM »

I don't believe they will allow themselves to be policed by Ba'athists. They have had a taste of freedom from those people and I highly doubt they will allow themselves to be ruled by a party that was vicious to them.

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Originally posted by Dowding
The Coalition is going to have to let mid-level Ba'athist types provide a police force and the rest of the municipal functions. There is no other way.