Author Topic: U.S. Boycott Hurts French Cheese Exporters (Read 1838 times)

straffo · « **Reply #30 on:** April 14, 2003, 01:39:42 AM »

No cheese for you ONE year

Frankly except for http://www.fromages.com impact is : Nil ...

Vulcan · « **Reply #31 on:** April 14, 2003, 02:26:20 AM »

New Zealand makes far better wines and cheeses than France anyway.

Saintaw · « **Reply #32 on:** April 14, 2003, 02:27:47 AM »

Well, the only ones you are hurting, is yourself, by missing a great different meal. I don't see why I would have to stuff myself with only Cheddar & Gouda. Boycott french beer instead, it's terrible!

Hortlund · « **Reply #33 on:** April 14, 2003, 03:06:46 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
You know, I'm perfectly capable of having a heated argument with my friends, and not getting unfriendly with them in the process. Why can't nations act like grownups?

So what happens when you have heated arguments with your enemies? LOL and arent you the one who threatened to drive to Sweden and kick my bellybutton at one time?

Better think about what you wish for.

straffo · « **Reply #34 on:** April 14, 2003, 03:28:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Vulcan
New Zealand makes far better wines and cheeses than France anyway.

You have to send me a parcel now !

I'll need to check it myself

Just send me the cheese I've already tasted the wine

Hortlund · « **Reply #35 on:** April 14, 2003, 03:47:34 AM »

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Originally posted by GScholz
France, Germany and even Russia to some degree were considered friends by the US before all this.

You presume too much Hortlund, I can still make that visit. Be careful what you whish for.

Key word being "were".

And I wasnt asking for you to come over and kick my ass, it was just an example on how grown ups can behave sometimes.

Manedew · « **Reply #36 on:** April 14, 2003, 08:31:44 AM »

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Originally posted by Tarmac
While some may stop shaving and bathing and don their Birkenstocks to go carry signs around Main Street

Hey you think hippies just stoped batheing for the war ... lmao they never bathe! Strangefolk and I think MaxCreek? are haveing a nice camping "hippie" show at the end of may .. you should show up and see for youself

You know I never liked France much after some bad experiances in Nice and Paris. At least I based my opinions on experiance; But damn some of you people jump on the american propoganda band wagon....

What your saying is freedom of speech is bad...

you better do what America wants or else, fall in line or we'll make you hurt in the purse (just like Microsoft LOL) maybe we need an open source UN?

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don't hold me exactly to these numbers but I think France has Vetoed 10-15 times in UN history ..and the US around 50 times..... hummmm.... so you want to punish the French for thinking on thier own? It's not like they have histroy of 'whineing' in the UN. Maybe, like many americans, they think this War was a handsomehunk idea , and unlike the British goverment, they pay attention to what thier people want.

where does the US govement put it's attention? .. anywhere but home.

I hear in a grand stroke of PR the US will provide health care and education for Iraqies..... where is my health care .. where is my education ... fediddlein' aholes in D.C.

I think I'm going to go out and buy a nice Pinot Nior.

lazs2 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 14, 2003, 08:33:00 AM »

Chevrolet brothers were American citizens. Some may have noticed that people that were formerly from other countries are now U.S. citizens.... You may also note the lack of people that are U.S. citizens giving up their citizenship.
lazs

Martlet · « **Reply #38 on:** April 14, 2003, 08:43:38 AM »

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Originally posted by Manedew

What your saying is freedom of speech is bad...

you better do what America wants or else, fall in line or we'll make you hurt in the purse (just like Microsoft LOL) maybe we need an open source UN? ......

don't hold me exactly to these numbers but I think France has Vetoed 10-15 times in UN history ..and the US around 50 times..... hummmm.... so you want to punish the French for thinking on thier own? It's not like they have histroy of 'whineing' in the UN. Maybe, like many americans, they think this War was a handsomehunk idea , and unlike the British goverment, they pay attention to what thier people want.

I think maybe you don't understand what a veto is, in this context. In the UNSC, a veto kills the resolution. Period.

It doesn't matter what the vote is. By France saying they are going to veto, they are saying they don't care what the will of the rest of the SC is, they are going to force their will on others.

On the flip side, a "NO" vote by any permanent member is considered a veto. Therefore, if 75% of the SC voted against a resolution, and a permanent member voted "NO", it is recorded as a vetoed resolution. So using recorded number of vetoes to support your argument in this sense is inaccurate. I'm not saying that the data is inaccurate, since I don't know either way.

I'm merely saying that you provide a fact (well, not really, you insinuate a fact) and use it as a comparison that may not be true.

CptTrips · « **Reply #39 on:** April 14, 2003, 08:50:04 AM »

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What your saying is freedom of speech is bad...

Why isn't my choice of what countries get my hard earned dollars just as valid a form of free speech?

If burning an American flag is procted free speech, surely selective purchasing is.

Wab

Manedew · « **Reply #40 on:** April 14, 2003, 10:06:36 AM »

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Originally posted by AKWabbit
Why isn't my choice of what countries get my hard earned dollars just as valid a form of free speech?

If burning an American flag is procted free speech, surely selective purchasing is.

Wab

Not saying it isn't your free speech right , saying your attacking them for saying what they think.... it's an economic attack. It is your right... but do you think it's right ....?

Do you not buy from the baker down the street because he's anti-war .. that's what doesn't make sense to me? Why the French? Lots of people think this war is stupid. Like me.

if Bill Gates was anti-war would you switch to Linux? That's the part of this I don't understand from you pro-war type's.

Martlet · « **Reply #41 on:** April 14, 2003, 10:10:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Manedew
Not saying it isn't your free speech right , saying your attacking them for saying what they think.... it's an economic attack. It is your right... but do you think it's right ....?

Do you not buy from the baker down the street because he's anti-war .. that's what doesn't make sense to me? Why the French? Lots of people think this war is stupid. Like me.

if Bill Gates was anti-war would you switch to Linux? That's the part of this I don't understand from you pro-war type's.

Yep. If that baker was anti-war, and I knew about it, I wouldn't buy from him. There are several businesses in my area that advertise their anti-war status, and I don't use any of them. I've also cancelled my corporate accounts with several French owned businesses.

Charon · « **Reply #42 on:** April 14, 2003, 10:28:46 AM »

So in essence, I'm being asked to choose between France and Wisconsin. What type of choice is that

Charon

Mini D · « **Reply #43 on:** April 14, 2003, 10:39:28 AM »

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Originally posted by Manedew
Not saying it isn't your free speech right , saying your attacking them for saying what they think.... it's an economic attack. It is your right... but do you think it's right ....?

No more or less correct than France vetoing the security council vote.

Freedome of speech is one thing... shear hatred is another thing. The recent summit meeting with France, Germany and Russia was broadcast with translations for every major language except English.

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Do you not buy from the baker down the street because he's anti-war .. that's what doesn't make sense to me? Why the French? Lots of people think this war is stupid. Like me.

Anti war? Hmmmm... this is part of the problem. France is not anti war. They've been supplying weapons to virtually every country with a dollar. France has been making money off of wars for some time. The problem is France is anti-American. If there was a baker down the street that was anti-American... well... He can see how easy it is to open a bakery in another country.

This coalition against the war seems to be comprised of countries that buy their oil from Iraq or sell weapons to them. The anti-war sentiment is incredibly misguided. How about if you admit that its "America is ****ing with our bottom line and we're not going to take it!" and nothing more noble than that.

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if Bill Gates was anti-war would you switch to Linux? That's the part of this I don't understand from you pro-war type's.

Lame analogy.

Rude · « **Reply #44 on:** April 14, 2003, 10:54:27 AM »

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Originally posted by Fishu
Americans faulting certain europeans immediatly anti-american when something is said against and then taking it a step further by refusing to buy some french product and renaming things like french fries...
(now which is more anti-?)

Thats just.. sick.

It's too bad isn't it. Perhaps a spade should be called a spade in the future, rather than phony friendships being courted by diplomats.

I find all of this refreshingly honest.