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« on: April 13, 2003, 03:22:01 PM »
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U.S. Boycott Hurts French Cheese Exporters

By JOCELYN GECKER, Associated Press Writer

PARIS - One way to gauge how Americans are thinking about France after the split over the war in Iraq is to ask a cheese exporter like Marc Refabert.

The Frenchman has been inundated by more than 2,000 e-mails from American customers, ranging in tone from apologetic to impolite, but all carrying the message put succinctly by a man from Illinois: "We no longer buy French products."

Many American gourmets seem to be putting politics over palates, and, although they haven't released any numbers, French suppliers say their bottom lines are being hurt by the French government's refusal to back military action.

"I wish we could just invite people to have some cheese and wine and relax, but that wouldn't appear to be the solution for now," said Refabert, co-founder of the Internet retailer http://www.fromages.com, which grossed $500,000 last year, mostly on sales to the United States.

An anti-France reaction that started with "freedom fries" has taken on sprawling dimensions: Some U.S. lawmakers are urging American companies to skip the Paris Air Show. A U.S.-based Web site took advertising space in The New York Times urging consumers not to fly Air France, eat Yoplait yogurt or buy a long list of other French goods.

While brie and Bordeaux are unlikely to become permanent casualties, there is little doubt these and other products have become popular targets as Americans turn up their noses at the French.

For Refabert, the influx of nasty e-mails has declined from a peak at the start of the war, but sales at his Tours-based business have not recovered. He's hopeful U.S. demand for French cheese will pick up around Easter, normally one of his busiest periods.

On the other side of the Atlantic, vendors of French goods hold little optimism for a change soon.

Murray's Cheese Shop in New York, known for its extensive French variety, is running a sale of almost exclusively French cheeses.

"People are buying less French cheese, there's no question about it. And I don't believe its subsiding," said Robert Kaufelt, the shop's owner. "It's going to mean better bargains for the customers who do want to buy it."

Kaufelt feels anti-French sentiment has entered a new phase. Initially — after France's prewar threat to use its U.N. veto to block Security Council support for military action — customers berated Kaufelt for carrying French cheeses.

"We don't get any comments or remarks anymore. We're in the unspoken phase — where they're just not buying it," he said.

The anti-French tide has some vendors scrambling for more pro-American suppliers — like the British.

Kaufelt was one of five American foodbuyers who traveled to Yorkshire in northern England in late March looking for British cheeses that could substitute for his French offerings.

Several British newspapers chronicled the visit, reveling in the idea that the delights from Wensleydale and Thirsk could someday replace those from Camembert and Roquefort.

At Wensleydale Dairy, sales director Phil Jones welcomed the new interest in its cheese: "We're cheesemakers and we try not to get too involved with politics. But if politics helps us, well, we'll take advantage of that."

French wine and cheese exporters say it's too soon for precise figures on recent sales to the United States, but few expect those numbers to be positive.

Even once statistics are tabulated, it will be difficult to measure the true impact of a boycott on French business, which is already suffering from economic gloom and a depreciated dollar that makes French products pricier for Americans.

What's not in question is the importance of the American market. The United States was the world's largest consumer of French wines and spirits last year, accounting for nearly a quarter — $1.8 billion — of total French exports.

"It definitely is a bit more challenging to sell French wine these days," said Jacques Thebault of SOPEXA, a branch of the French Agriculture Ministry that markets French food products in the United States. "We believe we're going to have a short-term impact on sales."

Retailers and chain stores in several parts of the United States have put off planned promotions of French wines and delayed new orders, Thebault said.

At the Syndicale des Negotiants de Beaune, which represents 70 producers of Burgundy and Beaujolais wines, they're taking a low profile.

"We're not looking to actively sell French wines in the United States," spokesman Denis Deveau said. "It wouldn't be the politically correct thing to do."

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« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2003, 03:25:44 PM »
Buy dutch cheese.
Get some real eddammers.
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« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2003, 03:31:58 PM »
This is SO retarded..

Hey all you Good ol' Boys..driving your CHEVYS.. You better send em all  back to France.. CHEVROLET was a Frenchman.

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« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2003, 03:48:08 PM »
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This is SO retarded..

Hey all you Good ol' Boys..driving your CHEVYS.. You better send em all  back to France.. CHEVROLET was a Frenchman.



 Ya know all the good ole boy red necks I know have cut way down on their french wine and cheese intake :rolleyes:

idiot...

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« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2003, 04:00:43 PM »
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Ya know all the good ole boy red necks I know have cut way down on their french wine and cheese intake :rolleyes:

idiot...


ROFL!!!

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« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2003, 04:15:51 PM »
udie

you're not too bright, are you?

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« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2003, 04:24:41 PM »
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udie

you're not too bright, are you?


Looks like someone cant take the fact that his ridiculous attempt at wit blew up in his face...

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« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2003, 04:27:24 PM »
UUUUGh.. ok udie

I'll type real slooow so you can keep up with your 'hooked on phonics' textbook


its absurd to punish the French Gov by sending back Chevrolets cause Louis Chevrolet was French.. its ALSO absurd to punish French cheesemakers cause their Government disagrees with the US. see? kinda the same thing.. see? thus my comment on how retarded the cheese boycott is.

it has nothing to do with the connection between rednecks and cheese as your cute snippet would suggest

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« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2003, 04:36:05 PM »
When I order a sandwich, I stopped asking for it on french bread.  LOL.  I just can't see myself saying that name when ordering a sandwich, even though I know it has nothing to do with France or imports/exports.  Sourdough it is now.  I know that's silly of me.   I did buy some new shoes the other day, Sketchers...though found out when at home they were manufactured in China.  I did wish I hadn't purchased them learning that.  Otherwise, that's about as far as I've gone now.  I don't think I buy anything French otherwise.  I'm not rabid about boycotting French goods, but it did push me a little further to thinking twice about trying to support those companies here at home more than I might've thought before.  Trade is good and leads to specialization which can help the consumer in the long run, but I'm a bit more patriotic these days.

Hawk, here's another great quote by him:
IF God listened to the prayers of men, all men would quickly have perished for they are forever praying for evil against one another.  -Epicurus
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2003, 04:41:35 PM »
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its absurd to punish the French Gov by sending back Chevrolets cause Louis Chevrolet was French.. its ALSO absurd to punish French cheesemakers cause their Government disagrees with the US. see? kinda the same thing.. see? thus my comment on how retarded the cheese boycott is.


Was it ok to punish the South African wine makers because their government was segregating their population?

Was it ok to punish the French wine makers when the French nuked the Mururoa atoll (again)?  

What exactly is wrong with a boycott as a means to demonstrate your personal opinion? Many many people boycott Jaffa oranges because they dislike the Israeli policy towards the Palestinians...are they wrong too?

I know for a fact that Chirac sure as he** dont care about my opinions. I do know that he does care if everyone stops buying french stuff. Boycotts work, if enough people do it.

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« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2003, 04:46:05 PM »
When the business of  Marc Refabert and others like him goes down la toilette, do you think he'll pass on his concern to his government? Is it possible he will suggest that their approach in the UN SC was très mauvais and not très bon?
If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!

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« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2003, 04:50:42 PM »
Hort

I think its wrong that the people who are just trying to make a buck or euro get the ungreased shaft when their Govs make policies. I know there are countless things that the US has done that the world would boycott our products. How often does a product boycott actually have effect on national policy? I'd venture a guess pretty rare. It seems that it is a way to let the population vent and rage at another country. I guess I think its directing anger at the wrong people. NO, I don't agree with the French gov on their policy in Iraq, but I don't hate the French cheesemaker and don't want him to suffer.  


Puke

I like that quote too. equally as deep as the other one. Makes a person think.

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« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2003, 04:52:33 PM »
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Hort

I think its wrong that the people who are just trying to make a buck or euro get the ungreased shaft when their Govs make policies. I know there are countless things that the US has done that the world would boycott our products. How often does a product boycott actually have effect on national policy? I'd venture a guess pretty rare. It seems that it is a way to let the population vent and rage at another country. I guess I think its directing anger at the wrong people. NO, I don't agree with the French gov on their policy in Iraq, but I don't hate the French cheesemaker and don't want him to suffer.  


Puke

I like that quote too. equally as deep as the other one. Makes a person think.


I don't hate him, but I want him to suffer.

I want him to suffer so bad, that every day he wakes up, he writes a letter to Chirac, telling him how much his poor decision is making the cheesemaker suffer.

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« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2003, 05:03:42 PM »
I want him to suffer so bad, that every day he wakes up, he writes a letter to Chirac, telling him how much his poor decision is making the cheesemaker suffer.


I thought this harsh when I read it first, then thought about it. I suppose in a better world, this would work. (or work better)  if the govs actually listened to the people getting screwed the worst., the power of the vote and all that. does that happen? do they listen and alter policy based on the concerns of the people?


oh god..I'm an idealist

someone shoot me

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« Reply #14 on: April 13, 2003, 05:45:31 PM »
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This is SO retarded..

Hey all you Good ol' Boys..driving your CHEVYS.. You better send em all  back to France.. CHEVROLET was a Frenchman.



I said a while back on the boards that the americans would stop buying french produce and hurt thier economy. I also said the iraqis would be dancing in the streets when we rolled in

I hate to say I told yall so :D:D:D:D:D

Hawk, chevrolet is not produced by french folks, cheese is.
Your statement makes no sense at all.

I use frenchs mustard.