good reference of information?

[Pappy]

I generaly only chime in on the board when its a historical or accuracy comment as to refrain from demeaning other players with heart felt concerns.
I would like to see one source used or close to it for references, stats or data on all things WWII in the game, it's just a bunch of opinions as it is and so much of what people say is only partialy accurate due to the lack of ALL the information.
Heres an example (country X had this varient that was the badest thing that ever flew in 1943) the problem I find is when I look in my janes book for example or sources on the net or pilot accounts they say that indeed the prototypes were bad bellybutton but unfortunately country X was out of the war by the end of 43 or under country Z's air umbrela and so the fighter was never used in more cases than to barely stir the imagination of future historians.
I would like a solid sorce for a few reasons one is to help me exploit the assets of each of the fighters, bombers and vehicles as I fly no plane exclusively at least until I get the F4U-4 with 50's of course, and second is to add to the over all feel and realism of the sim, after all simulation stems from reality and the more real it feels the more you slip into game and away from the fact that your sitting at a desk with the heating bill on one side and scanner on the other.
Here is an good example of solid info from Janes all world fighters 1940-1945, there were 10,000 F4U fighters DELIVERED to the navy by june of 1945, now thats production! over 6,000 built by Chance-Vought, 3,000 by Goodyear aircraft division and 735 by Brewster before they were omited by the navy for "failure to meet requirements".
See there?, when your a Miller High Life man you get to have it both ways.

[Maverick]

Pappy,

I understand your frustration regarding verification of materials claimed. The fact is, that there is NO SINGLE reference available to us for ALL the vehicles used in WW2. This is the case for the U.S. not withstanding all the other interested parties involved in the war.

There were too many varients, models and manufacturers of the equipment for STOCK production to keep it all in one volume. Field modifications throw another rock in the pond as that will make a significant change in the vehicles effectiveness.

Allied info was easier to obtain than axis evaluations. Allied evaluations of axis material was often "slanted" to make it look less threatening and boost morale. Example, Japan was just copying U.S. planes and couldn't POSSIBLY have a superior plane than the Allies.

Of course the victor gets to write the history and that puts an angle on things too.

Given the scope of engineering and scientific advances during this time period as well as all the changes during production by ALL the parties, you ain't gonna get one referance!  

We just gonna have to keep squabbling about it and get along as best we can.  

------------------
 
No Mercy Asked, None Given, Just pass the ammo

[This message has been edited by Maverick (edited 07-30-2000).]

[funked]

There are a lot of sources...  If you look hard enough you will find a few answers for almost every question.  Even Jane's has errors.

[Pappy]

Ya it might take a few reputable sources but Janes for example does a pretty good job with the allied varients need more sources for axis.

[Downtown]

er, eh hmmm.

 http://www.techpubs.wwiionline.com

This is a group of individuals interested in gettting the technical specifications of various WWII Era equipment.  Apex did the 109, Burbank did the P-36/Hawk 75, I am working on the P-40/Tomahawk-Kittyhawk-Warhawk (H-81/H-87).  Etc.. Etc.. others are doing ships, tanks, trucks, guns and gernades.  Gatt is doing the Italian stuff (I will probably do more U.S. Aircraft seeing as I bought "America's One Hundred Thousand, Fighter Production in the U.S. During World War II) and "Curtiss Aircraft from 1907 to 1947."

Anyhow, if you have a particular love or interest and want to take on the labor of love, E-Mail the Krodster. (I am gathering data on the Polikarpov I-16 also.)

Inclusive of the P-40 Technical Specifications I plan on including reference from WWII Pilots, I have contacted several P-40 drivers who assure me that the P-40 Could take more damage than the 109, could out perform the 109 at altitudes less than 15K (excluding rate of climb) and was a very capable combat effective plane!  Anyhow I hope to include comments from some P-40 Drivers.  I-16 info will be difficult to come by, perhaps I can ask a couple of the Redwings.

------------------

"Downtown" Lincoln Brown.
    lkbrown1@tir.com    
 http://www.tir.com/~lkbrown1
Wrecking Crews "Drag and Die Guy"
Hals und beinbruch!