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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2003, 03:20:18 PM »
their biggest mistake was believin the russian, china, french and german arms dealers who told them their **** was better than our ****... (just wanted to see the asteriks at work) :)
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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2003, 03:39:38 PM »
Hristo... is your avatar a pic of Hristo Stoitchkov? ex barcelona player?
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« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2003, 03:50:07 PM »
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Hristo... is your avatar a pic of Hristo Stoitchkov? ex barcelona player?


Yup, I used to play there before I started online simming.



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« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2003, 04:26:45 PM »
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Yup, I used to play there before I started online simming.

Now you just break the legs of 19 year old amateur kids in pre-season exhibition matches.  ;)  I have a feeling you're gonna get sued over that one before too long.

Two match ban as well, right?  :p
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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2003, 05:46:05 PM »
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like to know, what for so many dead :(  ? all this liberation and cataloged stock arms destruction, there was many other ways to doit  , it remember me the time when CSSR change at 1990 who haz the real  power and who have the ral power now, do you beleve  they difrent  ?:D


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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2003, 11:58:52 PM »
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Now you just break the legs of 19 year old amateur kids in pre-season exhibition matches.  ;)  I have a feeling you're gonna get sued over that one before too long.

Two match ban as well, right?  :p


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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2003, 09:55:46 AM »
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Them boys should thank me for giving them a taste of men's game !


hmm - let's take this out of context :)
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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2003, 11:25:41 AM »
marlet, becose you watch to much crapy TV shows  :D

never mind , just tryed to point out , that truth is always difrent like what we beleve

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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2003, 11:30:44 AM »
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marlet, becose you watch to much crapy TV shows  :D

never mind , just tryed to point out , that truth is always difrent like what we beleve



ahhh, see, and all that time I was thinking it was your crappy english.

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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2003, 11:38:08 AM »
One of the largest mistakes on the Iraqi front......they either didn't know our special forces were there....or could not stop them.  The havoc created by the Coalition Special Forces played a huge roll in this match.  Some of the laser marking of targets had to be done from the ground.  It was our special forces.....cut into Iraqi lines of communication and monitored them........took two air bases in the west......rallied the Kurds and trained them into a unified fighting force.  I believe these forces have not gotten the credit due them.  Special forces also took the offshore Iraqi Oil Terminal..........the only way Iraq could ship it's oil by tanker., and the only one Iraq had.  Not to mention securing the northern Oil Fields along with the Kurds.
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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2003, 11:42:05 AM »
^and the CIA operatives..
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« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2003, 12:21:47 PM »
StSanta,

 You are operating on the assumption that Saddam is the bad guy becasue he:

1. will destroy his country's assets - oil, bridges, etc.

2. will waste his people in sensless war

3. will only think of his own survival - and run away when things get hot

4. will use WMDs once things get desperate

5. will mistreat US POWs - torture/kill them and deny them medical care

6. will kill many iraqis in multiple incidents to blame it on americans

7. use his population as human shields in prolonged urban war

8. will be proven an opressor of population once it raises in revolt given the slightest opportunity.

 ETC.

 Once all those heinous acts failed to materilalise, you may conclude that he was a really inept bad guy. Why was he a bad guy, again, btw?

 miko

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« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2003, 12:58:07 PM »
except for the WMD thing... he did do all of those.. well... we don't know if he left when things got hot but he either never got the chance, did leave or... sacraficed civilians by staying in civilian areas..

he did misstreat prisoners and use his people for sheilds...

If you think his people aren't glad to see him go.. you are misstaken... If you think that the fight wouldn't have gone a lot longer and harder if any of his people would have wanted to continue his regime you are misstaken.

we did the right thing.    We will find illegal weapons and the U.S. and the world are a better and safer place because we did.  

saddam was a very bad man and he needed to be gotten rid of... I'm glad we did it.
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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2003, 01:14:50 PM »
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StSanta,

 You are operating on the assumption that Saddam is the bad guy becasue he:

1. will destroy his country's assets - oil, bridges, etc.

2. will waste his people in sensless war

3. will only think of his own survival - and run away when things get hot

4. will use WMDs once things get desperate

5. will mistreat US POWs - torture/kill them and deny them medical care

6. will kill many iraqis in multiple incidents to blame it on americans

7. use his population as human shields in prolonged urban war

8. will be proven an opressor of population once it raises in revolt given the slightest opportunity.

 ETC.

 Once all those heinous acts failed to materilalise, you may conclude that he was a really inept bad guy. Why was he a bad guy, again, btw?

 miko


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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2003, 02:10:59 PM »
lazs2: except for the WMD thing... he did do all of those.. well... we don't know if he left when things got hot but he either never got the chance, did leave or... sacraficed civilians by staying in civilian areas..

 The army never got moved into teh cities, as Pentagon analysts feared.

he did misstreat prisoners

 That a few of lowly underlings kicked some of POWs is deplorable, but that's pretty much all I've got from their interviews. They got medical help, food, company, detention in enclosed rooms, not open cages. that seems a better treatment that the one we give the enemy combatants.

and use his people for sheilds...

 By not surrendering unconditionally to US or by not giving up WMDs that failed to materialise?

If you think his people aren't glad to see him go.. you are misstaken...

 Sure they are. I was glad to see Clinton go. Does not mean I would have taken a rifle to hasten his departure or welcomed a foreign invasion...

If you think that the fight wouldn't have gone a lot longer and harder if any of his people would have wanted to continue his regime you are misstaken.

 Never said they loved him either.

we did the right thing.    We will find illegal weapons and the U.S.

 Of course we will... Will that prove he had no intention to use them and thus presented no danger?

saddam was a very bad man and he needed to be gotten rid of... I'm glad we did it.

 Aren't you supposed to be a bad man because you do bad things?

 Weren't you glad the last time we installed that bad man as a ruler in iraq? Saddam key in early CIA plot

 We did the right thing?

 miko