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Offline BGBMAW

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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2003, 02:45:58 PM »
Society is safer when Criminals dont know who is armed


The Gluteny of Gun laws prevent LAW Abiding Citizens from guns..While Criminals. do what they do..they break LAWS!....So ask your self do criminals care about trigger locks, magazine capacity or what type of gun they have......NO  they dont..



As we have seen before..

IS a criminal going to attak a girl with a gun or the girl with out the gun?  Ya ,,dumb question huh?  


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« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2003, 02:57:30 PM »
I dont' think guns have to do with crime. If someone is going to rob a store, he is going to do it, gun or no gun. Crime goes with the economy. It seems to me during bad economic times, crime increases. During good economic time, it decreases.

Why take away guns from honest people and let the criminals have them? It makes no sense. But i'm just a smack talking liberal, what do I know.
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« Reply #32 on: April 16, 2003, 08:37:10 AM »
sixpense... if you are indeed a liberal... and you feel the way you do about guns... How do you get along with fellow liberals when the subject comes up?  I am serious... the main reason I dislike liberals so much is their intolerance.... It is that intolerance that forces them to make the facts suit their beliefs or "feelings".   I have found that liberals can be especially vitriholic to other libs who don't "tow the line" in lockstep agreement.
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« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2003, 08:56:38 AM »
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vitriholic

damn dude knock it off !!!   :)
(had to look it up   lol)
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« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2003, 11:05:33 AM »
Wlfgng: I'm not blaming the victims.. I'm blaming the perpetrators!

when does this country stand up and become responsible for itself?  soon I hope.

 I understand that you are not trying to - but that's what you end up doing. The "country" is not a physical object or a person. It's a category name that we invented to describe a bunch of individuals living in some place - very varied bunch.

 I am sure the people who are being abused would really like to "become responsible" fro themselves, but if they had the power, they would not have the problem of being looted/robbed in the first place.

 If some country comes in and knocks out our government and puts police chiefs on the extermination lists and releases gang members from juvenile detention facility (they would claim that US government put them there because they refused to join the Boy Scouts of course) and then blames teh victims of ensuing chaos and looting, how would you like it?
 Did you blame koreans for not being responcible in LA lootings? Would make as much sense.

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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2003, 11:20:59 AM »
I understand what you're trying to say however when I see a country/people/group whatever you'd like to call it, that erupts with the chaos as witnessed in Iraq, I'd blame the population.

like the LA riots.. who was to blame?
the police?
rodney king?

the people that lived there and did the looting.

I applaud the Iraqi's that have stood up and begun defending their own neighborhoods, business, etc
THAT's what I'd like to see.
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« Reply #36 on: April 16, 2003, 11:20:59 AM »
oops.. doubled
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« Reply #37 on: April 16, 2003, 11:21:47 AM »
I understand what you're trying to say however when I see a country/people/group whatever you'd like to call it, that erupts with the chaos as witnessed in Iraq, I'd blame the population.

like the LA riots.. who was to blame?
the police?
rodney king?

the people that lived there and did the looting.

I applaud the Iraqi's that have stood up and begun defending their own neighborhoods, business, etc
THAT's what I'd like to see.

the bottom line is that the troops want to leave and come home as soon as possible, instead of trying to act like police in a foreign country.  The sooner the better for all concerned.
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« Reply #38 on: April 16, 2003, 11:33:30 AM »
Wlfgng: like the LA riots.. who was to blame?
the police?
rodney king?
the people that lived there and did the looting.

 Right - bot not Koreans who lived there and were looted.

 I am definitely blaming the police/state government for allowing that to happen - they knew what was going on but deliberately withdrew from the area - taking law and order with them - and left the people without protection at the mercy of thugs.

 The people there that did the looting were bred and un-educated in such way that one could not expect anything else from them, but it is the business of the government to deal with the reality - or butt out and let citizens protect themselves before the trouble starts - at least they would be prepared or leave the blighted area.

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« Reply #39 on: April 16, 2003, 11:39:06 AM »
that's the thing with war

no one really wins
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« Reply #40 on: April 16, 2003, 11:42:27 AM »
Amen on that.
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« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2003, 11:55:16 AM »
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I would like to hear your analysis on how guns for everyone prevent crime and how guns for everyone helps scare tyrants and invaders away.

...in light of the recent war in Iraq I mean...where something like 80% of the population had their own private AK-47.



well its really quite simple. You need enough balls to pull the trigger.
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« Reply #42 on: April 16, 2003, 12:04:18 PM »
More guns = less crime? Compare the US with Japan. The US has vastly more guns than Japan, but Japan has far less crime.
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« Reply #43 on: April 16, 2003, 12:05:22 PM »
X2Lee: well its really quite simple. You need enough balls to pull the trigger.

 But mostly a reason.

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« Reply #44 on: April 16, 2003, 12:07:51 PM »
beet1e: More guns = less crime? Compare the US with Japan. The US has vastly more guns than Japan, but Japan has far less crime.

 What else is different in US compared to Japan? Let's compare frequency of crime commited by japanese in US with that of Japan and with that commited by some other groups in US.

 You would get a very good indication that it's the people who commit crime, not guns.

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