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Offline WineMan

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« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2003, 11:57:11 AM »
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He said this guy will sue the players for ruffing him up a bit...



The irony of the american justice system is appalling...  


Yeah - the players should have dragged him into the under-stadium passageways before ruffing him up - now he'll have all the ammo he needs on film!

But seriously, any justice system where when you own a business you have to put fences around your trees to prevent some child who's parents aren't supervising him from climbing the tree, falling out, breaking his neck, then suing you for having an "attractive nuisance" needs to have something fixed!

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« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2003, 12:00:29 PM »
lol Maverick - I'm taking the piss out of the kind of reaction Eagler would post. That's certainly not taking any kind of moral high ground.
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« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2003, 12:10:04 PM »
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lol Maverick - I'm taking the piss out of the kind of reaction Eagler would post. That's certainly not taking any kind of moral high ground.


I think I've got another bite here on the line...... Yep but I AIN'T gonna touch THAT sucker. It's uglier than a rabid catfish!

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« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2003, 12:40:14 PM »
Time to authorize lethal force for on field security personnel.  Eventually one of these crazies is going to be armed and is going to put somebody in the hospital or worse.  Time to start making examples.

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« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2003, 12:47:00 PM »
it could be worse.... you could have the players doing this to fans :)



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« Reply #20 on: April 16, 2003, 12:49:25 PM »
Perk the 1st baseline.

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« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2003, 01:56:35 PM »
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it could be worse.... you could have the players doing this to fans :)



QUAH!


Hehe Furball...we did...the Boston Bruins (Hockey).  Can't remember what year exactly...maybe '79 or so.

Terry O'Reilly and a couple Bruins went up into the crowd at a game and pummelled a fan who was throwing keys at them.

Every-once-in-a-while, I see ESPN replay that clip.  Old-Time Hockey!

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« Reply #22 on: April 16, 2003, 02:26:33 PM »
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By RICK GANO, AP Sports Writer

CHICAGO - The Kansas City Royals (news) will not play Wednesday night's game against the Chicago White Sox (news) unless security at the stadium is improved, general manager Allard Baird said.

Just seven months after Kansas City coach Tom Gamboa was assaulted by a father and son who'd run on the same field, another fan at the Chicago White Sox's home park shockingly attacked first base umpire Laz Diaz on Tuesday night.


The fan entered the field not far from where Gamboa had been surprised and then pummeled in the first base coach's box last September.


"We spoke about it in the locker room, this is where Tom Gamboa got attacked. We thought nothing was going to happen, but it was a full moon out there," Diaz said.


"He just grabbed me by my waist and that's when I turned him around and got him down ... and everybody jumped on him."


Meanwhile, the Royals must be assured "that things have been upgraded where we can feel comfortable to where we can take the field," Baird told the Kansas City Star. "Otherwise we won't take it. I'm worried about my manager, my staff and my players — period. But I do feel for the families who came out to the game."


On Wednesday, Royals spokeswoman Chris Stathos said the team would report to the stadium and decide at game time whether to play.


Known as Comiskey Park when Gamboa was attacked, the facility is now called U.S. Cellular Field after a $68 million naming rights deal was reached before the season.


As the host for this July's All-Star game, the stadium has already undergone a major sprucing up. Now it has a black eye, its safety record questioned by yet another ugly attack at a Royals-White Sox game.


"As a major league baseball player, you shouldn't have to worry about your health on the baseball field from the fans," Kansas City star Mike Sweeney (news) said. "When they come on the field to do harm, that's when it gets scary."


Immediately after Carlos Lee flied out to end Chicago's eighth inning, a man ran on the field and tried to tackle Diaz.


Security and players rushed to the aid of the 40-year-old Diaz, who served in the U.S. Marine Corps Reserve. The fan was quickly taken away and Diaz, who was not hurt, finished the game.


"When I looked over, there was one of the fans from the stands and I just got him off me," Diaz said. "I just turned around and got him off me. The good hand-to-hand combat they taught me worked."


Police spokesman Wayne Frisbie said investigators wanted to talk with Diaz before deciding whether to file charges against the man. He remained in police custody Wednesday.


Frisbie said the man, who has not been identified, was treated for minor injuries at St. Anthony's Hospital in Chicago.


Several Royals players could be seen kicking and stomping the fan while he was pinned down. When the attacker was put into a police car, his head was wrapped with a white bandage, soaked with blood near the right temple.


Royals right fielder Brandon Berger, who caught the ball for the final out of the inning, was one of the first to reach Diaz.

   



"You catch the ball, you look down and a guy's getting tackled and it's like, 'What's going on?'" Berger said.

Eerily, it was the first appearance by the Royals in Chicago since Gamboa, then Kansas City's first base coach, was attacked last Sept. 19

Now the Royals' bullpen coach, Gamboa said he thought security was tighter for his team's return. He felt safe — at least before the game.

"Oh yeah, the assistant to major league security was at the game tonight. He told me before the game that they had beefed up the security, but the fans will always outnumber the security force, so there is only so much they can do," Gamboa said.

"I think people just have too much to drink," he added.

Kevin Hallinan, baseball's security head, was in San Francisco when he learned of the attack. He was on his way to Chicago to investigate.

"I'm going to be meeting with all concerned," he said. "I spoke with Diaz and he did say he thought security got out there in a hurry."

And the attack on Diaz wasn't the only problem involving rowdy spectators. It was just the most brazen.

Earlier, Tuesday night's game was delayed three times when fans ran onto the field before being tackled by security guards. All three were charged with trespassing, the White Sox said.

Frisbie said all three were charged with misdemeanor criminal trespass to land. He identified them as Jeffrey Adams, 25; Albert Skutnik, 25; and Tom Skutnik, 20, all of Chicago.

"I don't know how it is when other teams are in town, but it seems like every time we are here, something crazy happens," Sweeney said. "Maybe they should bring more police in or put up some high fences so fans don't get on the field."

The White Sox said it was the actions of a few who don't represent their true fans.

"The behavior of four people attending tonight's game was reprehensible and will not be tolerated," the team said in a statement. "They will be prosecuted to the fullest extent the law allows."

The 55-year-old Gamboa still has a minor hearing loss in his right ear from last year's attack.

The boy, 15 at the time, was sentenced to five years of probation and also ordered to undergo mandatory counseling and perform 30 hours of community service.

He was arrested along with his father, William Ligue Jr., who initially pleaded innocent to charges of aggravated battery and mob action. The case is still pending.

After the attack on Diaz, the Royals scored four runs in the top of the ninth for an 8-5 win — their 11th victory in 12 games.

Sweeney hit a two-run homer to put the Royals ahead. Albie Lopez (news) (2-0) won and Billy Koch (1-1) lost after blowing the save.

The benches emptied in the first when Miguel Asencio hit Chicago's Frank Thomas (news) with a pitch for the second time this season. No punches were thrown.

Thomas homered in the eighth to give the White Sox a 5-4 lead
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« Reply #23 on: April 16, 2003, 02:37:27 PM »
I was at a Mariner's game last year and a fan ran onto the field naked.  A hairy redhead man.  It was much more horrifying than this incident.

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« Reply #24 on: April 16, 2003, 02:50:14 PM »
"time to stop serving alcohol at public sporting events ... at least at this park"

Good idea.  Let's penalize 30,000-40,000 people for the conduct of 3-4.  That's how this country ended up with a 21 drinking age. :rolleyes:

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« Reply #25 on: April 16, 2003, 02:51:06 PM »
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Hehe Furball...we did...the Boston Bruins (Hockey).  Can't remember what year exactly...maybe '79 or so.

Terry O'Reilly and a couple Bruins went up into the crowd at a game and pummelled a fan who was throwing keys at them.

Every-once-in-a-while, I see ESPN replay that clip.  Old-Time Hockey!


It was against the rangers in New York. O'rielly, Mcnabb, and Milbury went up into the stands. Milbury took the guy's shoe off and started beating him with it. I'm hoping to see that game on ESPN classic:D
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« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2003, 02:58:43 PM »
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"time to stop serving alcohol at public sporting events ... at least at this park"

Good idea.  Let's penalize 30,000-40,000 people for the conduct of 3-4.  That's how this country ended up with a 21 drinking age. :rolleyes:


Penalize?

are you penalized if you can't purchase booze?

isn't it against the law to drink in public? isn' a stadium or ball park a public place?

they can get smashed b4 the game, as many tailgaters do, sober up during the game and head to the bar after .... it'd make the line in the restrooms shorter too..

never happen though ... $$$$ - nothing to do with your "penalized" beer guzzlin rights - if no boooze made more cash, it'd be so.
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« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2003, 03:04:21 PM »
Damn right it's penalized.  I have the right to drink whatever the hell I want.  It's my body, keep off.

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« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2003, 03:08:45 PM »
Baseball is boring as toejam, the only redeeming quality it has is the ability to get toejamfaced at the game.

Any sport is that way for that matter, "you want me to sit in this crappy uncomfortable piece of plastic and eat your crappy arnold food and watch this long arnold game?"

It's much cheaper to do it from the comfort of your couch and your TV, not to mention the benefit of eating REAL food instead of processed entrails (hotdogs) or microwaveable pizza.
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« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2003, 03:11:59 PM »
No, there is nothing better than watching England draw 0-0 at home to Sweden, whilst sitting with the neo-nazi contingent of English fans.

I learnt a few new swearwords that afternoon.

My local team is crap, but very occasionally they win, and that's a great atmosphere to be in.
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