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Offline Max

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« on: April 16, 2003, 09:43:02 PM »
It doesn't look like we're going to see the La7 perked anytime soon.

 Fine.

How about unperking the Tempest?

All in favor, say "aye"

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« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2003, 09:49:26 PM »
I say perk only the Me262 and Me163.


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« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2003, 09:51:16 PM »
nay

Offline WldThing

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« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2003, 10:16:37 PM »
How could a Temp be Unperked ...IMO it is the best perked plane in the game.  And there are very good reasons why it is perked.

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« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2003, 10:39:48 PM »
I don't see this "thing" with the la7. I really don't.

They're fun to kill and with most pilots, one dimensional.

Just hang around, wait for the mistake..

Kill
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« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2003, 10:46:27 PM »
I AGREE, perk only the 262 and 163.......



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« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2003, 11:03:56 PM »
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Originally posted by nopoop
I don't see this "thing" with the la7. I really don't.

Just hang around, wait for the mistake.


It is very hard to "just hang around" an La-7 in certain aircraft without being killed.

I'm only an average player (4 to 1 in a Tour is my record for the Mosquito) but a newbie in an La-7 will easily defeat me if we start co-E and I don't get him very, very quickly.

That said I don't see the need to change anything, I just hate La-7s.
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« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2003, 11:17:47 PM »
Nay. The Tempest is worth the points imho. It's clearly the unchallenged King of the Planeset at typical MA-combat alts.
The SpitXIV is not. It's good@higher alts, but inferior to many non-perk planes at typical combat alts. Additionally, it's icon is a death-sentence. worth 5-10 points.
The Ta152 is not - for the same reasons as above. Unperk it - and watch it's usage for 2 months. If it's too high in the second tour perk it again. 5 points.
The F4U-1C is an outstanding weapon upgrade for an otherwise only mediocre plane for the MA environment. Price could be lower as it's usage wouldn't go up to the unbearable levels it was perked for. The N1K2-J is superior for most applications in the MA and is free. 1-2 points.
The 262 is worth its price as well as the 163. Both could be more expensive imho.
The only thing I'd perk is the 3 B-20 armament on the La-7. Most La7s didn't have it. 1 Point for it.
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« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2003, 11:25:17 PM »
Unperk the Tempest or perk the La7!!!

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2003, 12:16:58 AM »
The La7 is better than every perk plane we have, except the Tempest.  Of course, you'd be hard pressed to get an La-7 driver to admit that.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2003, 12:23:14 AM »
The only reason the La-7 is better than the Spitfire Mk XIV or Ta152H-1 is because of the typical AH combat altitude, eg, low.  The La-7 is optimized for low altitude work and that is where the vast majority of combat in AH takes place.  The Spitfire Mk XIV and Ta152H-1 are optimized for high altitude combat, where practically no fighting occurs in AH.

This does kind of lead one to wonder why they are perked and the La-7 is not.


I did manage to drag an La-7 up to 25,000ft while flying the Spitfire Mk XIV once.  After a few positional manuvers he realized how badly outclassed he was and put is nose down and out accelerated me towards the deck.  Dang but that thing dives fast, although he did ge the jump on me in diving by a good 4-5 seconds.

Too bad to, I'd have had him in another 15 seconds.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2003, 12:37:45 AM »
Argue to perk the LA-7 all you want.  
Don't unperk the Tempest.  It's worth the points.

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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2003, 01:02:24 AM »
Let me get this straight:

You are upset because ONE free plane is too fast and too good and your proposed solution is to allow free use of yet another plane that is even faster and even better - so that now we will have TWO planes that are too fast and too good...

This helps how?

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2003, 01:51:09 AM »
PERK LA-7 FOR 12 POINTS!!!!! (same as the F4U1-C)

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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2003, 02:51:22 AM »
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Originally posted by Ike 2K#
PERK LA-7 FOR 12 POINTS!!!!! (same as the F4U1-C)



Learn to exploit the weaknesses of the La7 and you won't be part of the flock that bleets to have them perked.


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