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Offline crowMAW

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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2003, 09:56:21 AM »
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Why istn Clinton staying out of the politics now? I thought it was understood that once your precidency ends, you shut the he** up.

Having a bunch of ex-pres running around talking like that undermines the leadership of the pres, no matter who he is.

Yes, it must have really stung Shrub when his daddy criticized his actions too.  I guess Shrub is too old for Bush to spank.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62952-2003Mar8¬Found=true

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« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2003, 10:04:34 AM »
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Originally posted by 10Bears
Canidate Bush said a lot of things during that summer. Apearently he didn't have foresight to have contingency plans in case of terrorist attack...


I wish that were true, but the invasion of Iraq was planned by PNAC long before 9/11.  PNAC's members and participants reads like a who's who of the Bush Administration.

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« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2003, 10:09:14 AM »
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Originally posted by crowMAW
Yes, it must have really stung Shrub when his daddy criticized his actions too.  I guess Shrub is too old for Bush to spank.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A62952-2003Mar8¬Found=true
Don't read the Washington Post... read the whole speach they "cited".  Sr. did not criticize Jr.'s decisions.  Most of what was quoted was in defense of "we should have finished this in '91, but Sr. screwed the pooch with his decision".  Amazing how there was an 8 year stretch in between when no decisions were made.

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« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2003, 02:30:26 PM »
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I wish that were true, but the invasion of Iraq was planned by PNAC long before 9/11. PNAC's members and participants reads like a who's who of the Bush Administration.


CC that Crow, what's even more chilling in the PNAC report is the part where they talk about needing a "Pearl Harbor type event" in order to get the ball rolling..

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« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2003, 02:41:43 PM »
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Having a bunch of ex-pres running around talking like that undermines the leadership of the pres, no matter who he is.


I would hope that if George Sr. has something to say that Jr. would be wise enough to at least listen.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #20 on: April 18, 2003, 03:11:09 PM »
10 Bears, surely you are not suggesting the the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by the PNAC, Are you?

What PNAC report are you referencing, btw?  I'd like to see that for myself.

Thanks
« Last Edit: April 18, 2003, 03:21:20 PM by Syzygyone »

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« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2003, 03:30:30 PM »
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Originally posted by Sixpence
I would hope that if George Sr. has something to say that Jr. would be wise enough to at least listen.

Do you see a difference between an ex pres doing that in private, outside the media light, or on the six o clock news?

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« Reply #22 on: April 18, 2003, 06:18:08 PM »
I would like to know what is said. But that is just me. I don't think it undermines anyone, except maybe for the person who says it. I have a mind and can think for myself, what an ex-pres says isn't going to change that. You listen to what people say, it either makes a good point or it doesn't.

Except for that teacher from columbia, that kinda irked me.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

(and I still say he wasn't trying to spell possum!)

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« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2003, 06:26:05 PM »
All you left wing consipicay theory nuts are pretty dumb, dont you realize how much you sound like those militia types and their zionist occupied government crap?

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Re: 10 Bears, Say it ain't so
« Reply #24 on: April 18, 2003, 06:27:11 PM »
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10 Bears, surely you are not suggesting the the 9/11 attacks were orchestrated by the PNAC, Are you?

What PNAC report are you referencing, btw?  I'd like to see that for myself.

Thanks


No of course not, he will come in here and deny it. :rolleyes:  But of course he did get the suggestion in there didnt he...

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« Reply #25 on: April 18, 2003, 07:04:57 PM »
Grun,
Is suggesting 911 a conspiracy taboo?
In late 1942 there was a little blip in the New York Times on page 38.. It was reported that over one million Jews had been murdered in Germany. At the time it was written off as a conspiracy theory. As you know in the spring of ’45 this theory turned out to be true.. except much worse than was thought.

In 1986 there was a conspiracy theory that President Reagan was trading arms for hostages to Islamic countries then selling them arms and using the money to support his private war in central America against the wishes of Congress. At the time, the people that expressed this view were called oddballs, weirdos, tin foil hat crowd.. Only one problem, the theory turned out to be true.

There are many many people that believe Oswald didn’t act alone in the assassination of President Kennedy and there is creditable circumstance evidence that this is more than a theory.  

I didn’t suggest 911 was a conspiracy BUT, there is quite a few un answered questions that might shed some light on this. The fact that Bush has cut the investigation off at the knees doesn’t aleve my suspicions. The fact that the PNAC report written in 1996 suggesting they needed a “Pearl Harbor” event is not really helpful either.

How did I know Syria was to be the next target?... Why, I read it in the PNAC report that’s how.

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What PNAC report are you referencing, btw? I'd like to see that for myself.


Yes, this is a very interesting read Syzygyone. Open up goggle and type in “Project for the new American Century”.

EDIT: Just saw your privite message Syzygyone, here ya go.
http://www.newamericancentury.org/

Here is the PDF that was written before 911,
http://www.newamericancentury.org/RebuildingAmericasDefenses.pdf
Take a look at page 50...

I don't make this sht up..
« Last Edit: April 18, 2003, 07:20:23 PM by 10Bears »

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« Reply #26 on: April 18, 2003, 07:28:30 PM »
I didn’t suggest 911 was a conspiracy BUT, there is quite a few un answered questions that might shed some light on this. The fact that Bush has cut the investigation off at the knees doesn’t aleve my suspicions. The fact that the PNAC report written in 1996 suggesting they needed a “Pearl Harbor” event is not really helpful either.

You are suggesting it right now... You want to think 911 was a deliberate attack done by americans - thats enough for me.

You are very sad...

Do you think that FDR caused Pearl Harbor too?

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« Reply #27 on: April 18, 2003, 07:40:37 PM »
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Do you think that FDR caused Pearl Harbor too?


No.. I do believe the right wing Military Industrial Complex had a hand in murdering President Kennedy due to the fact he was about the pull the advisers out of Viet Nam.

Grun, a good police detective never discounts any suspects until he is able to sort through all the evidence... This hasn't happened yet.

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« Reply #28 on: April 18, 2003, 07:44:52 PM »
Kennedy wasnt any sort of Vietnam pacifist - he was a pretty good damn sold cold warrior.. I think this advisors myth built up as some lefty liberal anti war wetdream... Sorry I dont buy it.

As for 911, why did Osama bin laden take credit for it?  Lemme guess he was still working with the CIA.

Why did all the 911 cellphone calls from the planes say they saw arabic men - another lie.

Dont you libs love pointing out that most of the 911 hijackers were saudis. If the 911 attack was a CIA fraud meant to enable a war in Iraq or Syria why not just make them all Iraqis or Sirya?
« Last Edit: April 18, 2003, 07:49:51 PM by GRUNHERZ »

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« Reply #29 on: April 18, 2003, 07:52:24 PM »
Whats really sad is how you think that 911 justifies anything you want it to justify.

The greatest military adventurer of the last 40 years is George Bush Jr.
No one else even comes close.