Author Topic: N.Korea (Read 1734 times)

Martlet · « **Reply #30 on:** April 25, 2003, 02:49:59 PM »

Let's hit Germany while we're at it.

mora · « **Reply #31 on:** April 25, 2003, 05:48:09 PM »

Even if they have a few nukes and a delivery system they wont be able to launch any missiles. The missiles they have probably need long preparations before they can launch them, and you will have plenty of time to take them out.

Drunky · « **Reply #32 on:** April 25, 2003, 07:25:14 PM »

My simple opinion (and over-simplified) is that Saddam was a thug but Kim Jong Il (please learn how to spell his name correctly people) is mentally unstable.

The North Korean people believe in him and when he says that the US is attacking North Korea they will attack back. Nevermind that his definition might be an embargo.

I agree with Batz...maybe he doesn't have a delivery system so let's call his bluff. Embargo the bastard and see what he does.

And BTW...Blitz, you still need to put your tin foil hat back on you conspiracy theory nut bag.

Toad · « **Reply #33 on:** April 25, 2003, 07:38:51 PM »

General Nam Il and General Harrison signed the Armistice Agreement at 10 o'clock in the morning of 27 July 1953; in 1994, the North Koreans announced that they were withdrawing from the Military Armistice Commission, but they continue to maintain representation at Panmunjom.

You call that being in a "state of war" with them? If so, it's NK that has "re-declared" the war.. not us. Makes it tough on them if we don't want to play war, doesn't it?

They're going to have to make an overt act of war; and of course, it's that blue UN flag that flies over the DMZ. So, they'll have to go to war against the UN. I don't see that as likely. It's the US they wish to milk like a cow. They don't want to fight the US or the UN. They just want to blackmail us; that's what this is all about.

They're worried about us hitting them with a first strike? Let them worry. Let them make nukes. Let them eat their nukes.

The agreed framework said "The two sides will move toward full normalization of political and economic relations."

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The Clinton administration made some progress on fulfilling this aspect of the framework toward the end of its second term, most notably when then-Secretary of State Madeleine Albright visited Pyongyang in October 2000. Additionally, in June 2000, Washington eased longstanding sanctions against North Korea under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the Defense Production Act, and the Export Administration Act, clearing the way for increased trade, financial transactions, and investment. Pyongyang is still prohibited, however, from receiving U.S. exports of military and sensitive dual-use items and most related assistance.

U.S. intelligence believes that Kim Jong-Il started up his covert uranium weapons program sometime between 1998 and 2000.
It's clear that the NK's were in violation of the PRIMARY purpose of the AF about 4 years after they signed it. So maybe Clinton didn't feel bound by it since they were already breaking the agreement.

It's obvious Bush doesn't feel bound by it and rightly so.

They can threaten all they like but even an inscrutable NK should be able to scrutinize the reaction those threats are drawing from the present administration.

If they seek to reduce the possibility of war by threatening us with war, they're crazy. And if they are crazy, there'll be a war.

And they'll lose.

Batz · « **Reply #34 on:** April 25, 2003, 08:24:11 PM »

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Batz: He doesnt have delivery system to hit the west coast and just because he seems a "wildcard" to you doesnt mean he has a death wish.

You seem exceptionally well informed.

Folks said Saddam would use wmd is pushed into a corner and he was pushed far more the Kim would be over an embargo.

Do you imply Saddam was not a bad guy we depicted him or that he did not have WMD?

I dont see why we dont slip a couple of suit case nukes inf there and claim there was an "accident".

Ever tried to be a tourist in NK?

I think the US should call their bluff just like they are doing.

Right. Nuclear strike rather that another attempt to talk without losing anything.
Why do you think the risk of hearing some bad words on those talks is worse that the risk of nuclear war, again?

miko

I am informed enough to know the history behind the threats this guy makes. He wants a deal.

No Saddam was a bad guy, but not bad enough to commit suicide just to kill a few folks with wmd. It was a foregone conclusion that should he go that route he would be obliterated. Neither Saddam nor Kim have the idealogical drive that Hitler had. They wont die in their bunker at the very end just to prove a point.

Do you think we cant insert agents into NK?

His threat of a nuclear strike is only as credible as the technology he has to deliver it. What would 1 or 2 nukes achieve for him anyway? He would be blown to off the face of the earth. What would he gain?

A person could sit hear and say that if you dont pay their AH account they will blow up NY. Would you right a check? or want to discuss it further?

They will continue to talk but not on his terms. Who said they wouldnt.

You better stick to monetary conspiracies, thats more in line with your style of paranoia.

X2Lee · « **Reply #35 on:** April 25, 2003, 08:43:46 PM »

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Originally posted by miko2d
Maverick: I hate to say it but I think the first actual action might be an embago of the country.

I sympatise with your reluctance to say it. They already declared that any such act would be treated as war and responded to by nuclear strike. You live in one of the West Coast metropolices or have relatives there?
Still worth the cost, right? Not everyone would be willing to sacrifice as much as you do.

miko

We would knock thier few pitiful missles down then send a couple back towards them. Do you think they are idiots?

rc51 · « **Reply #36 on:** April 25, 2003, 08:46:58 PM »

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Originally posted by blitz
All countries, evil or not, that want to be safe need nukes while Bush & Co are in charge, they are incalculable

Countries of this world: Better run and get 'em before it's to late!

Regards Blitz

Shut up stupid

X2Lee · « **Reply #37 on:** April 25, 2003, 08:50:49 PM »

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Originally posted by batdog

We have sit back in the past, as have other nations and observed over and over the hand wringing, bickering and poltical back stabbing done by that creature called the UN. We've pretty much determined that when it concerns our nations security and its allies that IS useless.

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The UN has an important function and we will never withdraw from it.

We keep an eye on our enemies and have dialog with them through the UN.

X2Lee · « **Reply #38 on:** April 25, 2003, 09:01:19 PM »

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Originally posted by Batz
. Neither Saddam nor Kim have the idealogical drive that Hitler had. They wont die in their bunker at the very end just to prove a point.

Batz you think hitler killed himself to make a point?
I think he knew it was all over anyway and took the cowards way out.

And dont matter if Kims a kook if he gets called on his bluff its all over for him and he damn well knows it.

If he wants to die he is on the right side of the road.

batdog · « **Reply #39 on:** April 25, 2003, 10:46:47 PM »

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Originally posted by crabofix
Ok, batdog, no wonder that people are feeling a bit Anti, when you always are calling them *********

I wonder if you have a secret sexuell fantasy of getting a mouthwash?
Was it something your mother did when you where a child (younger) and you often think about, when having private moments?

Now to the sitting back, getting backstabbed by the UN.
Anyone that disagree with you are backstabbers?
France are backstabbers because they chose not to go into war, breaking International laws?

Or backstabbers because they where´nt shure about US motives?

SHOW ME THE WMDS, Please.

Everithing else is just, "talk, talk, talk", proof needed, NOW.

I would reply..but your post is like trying to translate a monkey sitting in a tree screaming at me while he throws feces in my direction.

About the only thing I can fiqure is that once again... being clueless your just going to spew some crap and hope it makes some sort of sense?

crabofix · « **Reply #40 on:** April 25, 2003, 10:54:06 PM »

So, it was Alien that abducted your sister and made her pregnant to?
You say Ol´yeller and Bubba saw em?
Wake up, hillbillie "bat"dog.

Suave · « **Reply #41 on:** April 26, 2003, 02:42:45 AM »

Kim isn't such a wild card, and he isn't crazy, he likes american booze and he likes sweedish women, and pop music . War would really interferre with his life. He just want's more money .

North Korea is doing the same thing it's done for 40 years, nothing new. President Bush just brought it back into the spotlight with his "axis of evil" statement .

JoeSmoe · « **Reply #42 on:** April 26, 2003, 01:02:46 PM »

Who gives a fk about sweden.. crabo..shut your hole..

Thrawn · « **Reply #43 on:** April 26, 2003, 07:30:58 PM »

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Originally posted by JoeSmoe
Who gives a fk about sweden.. crabo..shut your hole..

Sweden rocks. It beat out Canada as the best country to live in.

Jack55 · « **Reply #44 on:** April 26, 2003, 07:47:19 PM »

When the bunker buster mini-nukes and ABM systems are ready, W will make an example of NK. He's just making time until then.