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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2003, 11:13:39 PM »
Which war was it that had no "blue on blue" incidents?

Did you recognize the HMS Cardiff reference?

No comment on professionalism there?

You really are pretty much like the others, I think.
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2003, 11:16:45 PM »
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Eh? I was talking about British casualties to US actions.


Oh, ok
I thought it was about  hilleriuose anqudotes that accured during the "war", showing that US soilders couldīnt tell who was friend or foe.
And that someone stated that US won the war, alone, both ww I and II
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2003, 11:20:42 PM »
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The US haven't fought an equal opponent since Korea!


Yeah.. think about that. Talk amongst yourselves. It'll come to you.

(BTW, we didn't have an equal opponent in Korea, either. The ROE just made it seem that way. Can you say Yalu River bridges?)
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2003, 11:21:19 PM »
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and when was the last time the Iraqies launched fighters into Patriot batteries range? (tornado incident).


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You seem to lack the basic knowledge that the Patriot system (as I understand it anyway), cannot tell between a low trajectory missle and a fighter aircraft.  I also believe there was a lack of communication from the British aircraft to warn of their approach.  Either way, I find it deplorable to use the death of brave men as someones little jabbing point, whether they died in battle or accidentally to friendly fire.

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How many US lives were lost to British action? How many British lives were lost to US action?


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How many Brits were there compared to US?


Excellant point, and one I was going to point out myself.  

GScholz seems to be determined to point out a less than well thought out point.  Imagine if one German soldier had been there, and killed by friendly fire.  The US would then have killed more Germans than the German would have killed US soldiers now wouldn't he?  Don't forget, the US bore the brunt of air defense, as of course they bore the brunt of most everything else.

Its time to make this statement for guys like GScholz, as far as I am concerned, with your constantly finding things to put down the US about, you can kiss my ass.



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All in all I'd say it was a VERY successful campaign by both the US and the UK. Many are saying the most successful military campaign of all time.

There will always be those that are envious and anxious to get in their knocks anyhow they can. Kinda pathetic imo.


Very well said, I couldnt agree more!

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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2003, 11:22:45 PM »
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Oh I think there were plenty more US troops, and still you managed to kill more of them than they did of you. My point exactly.


You make no sense. If the US had the LARGE majority of forces, it stands to reason that US forces would be more likely to be involved in friendly fire accidents.
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« Reply #20 on: April 25, 2003, 11:23:33 PM »
How does it apply?

Are you saying "blue on blue" is only unprofessional in this war? Or only if it is "US on blue"?

I see you made no comment on "unprofessionalism" by the "professionals".

How does it apply? It applies because there's been "blue on blue" in every major conflict I've ever read about... by every army/nation involved.
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« Reply #21 on: April 25, 2003, 11:26:18 PM »
Toad I think you should ask Boroda about this, he will state that it never accured with soviet forces, so, thats not true, not all conflicts/wars
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« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2003, 11:27:31 PM »
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The US haven't fought an equal opponent since Korea! Again this is not the issue here.


LOL!

Does the US have an equal apponent?

By the way, the US could have wiped Korea, China and Russia off the map during the Korean war if we wanted to. Nothing on earth could have stopped us from wiping out Korea, China and Russia combined if we had allowed ourselves.
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« Reply #23 on: April 25, 2003, 11:30:39 PM »
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LOL!

Does the US have an equal apponent?

By the way, the US could have wiped Korea, China and Russia off the map during the Korean war if we wanted to. Nothing on earth could have stopped us from wiping out Korea, China and Russia combined if we had allowed ourselves.



Donīt  blow yourself up like that, NUKE,  you will end up soiling your pants.

But you are a real comedian, but please, dont quite your daytime job
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« Reply #24 on: April 25, 2003, 11:32:31 PM »
Sweden ... a force to be reckoned with. ;)
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« Reply #25 on: April 25, 2003, 11:35:02 PM »
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Donīt  blow yourself up like that, NUKE,  you will end up soiling your pants.

But you are a real comedian, but please, dont quite your daytime job


Why dont you tell us all who is an equal opponent to the US.

Then explain to us why the US would have not been able to destroy China, North Korea and Russia together during the time of the Korean war.
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« Reply #26 on: April 25, 2003, 11:35:07 PM »
Oh, and GScholz... explain the professionalism that cost two of the Queen's Royal Lancers their lives in a Challenger near Basra.

Blue on blue is absolutely tragic. But it happens. And it happens in ALL armies.

But you go right ahead.
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« Reply #27 on: April 25, 2003, 11:35:52 PM »
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Sweden ... a force to be reckoned with. ;)


Finely, someone who gets around and knows about things.
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« Reply #28 on: April 25, 2003, 11:38:05 PM »
And some told me I had no future in politics! Bwahahahaha! :D
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« Reply #29 on: April 25, 2003, 11:43:27 PM »
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The soldiers that fought in those wars are now retirered. Comparing for instance the US Army in VN with todays US Army has no merit what so ever. Same goes for the British, but if you insist I think the Royal Navy has yet to shoot down a civilian airliner.

Again how many US casualties were caused by British action in THIS war? I'm not sure, but I don't remember hearing of a single one? Every 2 out of 3 coalition tanks were British, yet I don't remember hearing any of them shooting up M1A1's? I do remeber M1A1's killing a Challenger, and I do remember British soldiers getting killed, and I do remember a Tornado being shot down.

Again, the professionalism of TODAYS armies cannot be determined by wars not fought by THAT army. The only other war that would count in this argument is GW1, since many of the veterans of that war are still in service.


Hey dummy, if there are 5 Brits compared to 1000 US, don't you think the incidents might be scewed based on the numbers?
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