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Offline Jackal1

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« on: April 28, 2003, 02:35:24 PM »
Subj: KEEP THIS MOVING; ACROSS AMERICA HONORING A TRAITOR This is for all the kids born in the 70's that do not remember this, and didn't have to bear the burden, that our fathers, mothers, and older brothers and sisters had to bear. Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the "100 Women of the Century." Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still countless others have never known how Ms. Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country but specific men who served and sacrificed during Vietnam.

The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot. The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat.  In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison-the "Hanoi Hilton." Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell, cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was ordered to describe for a visiting American "Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane treatment" he'd received.  He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and dragged away.

During the subsequent beating, he fell forward upon the camp Commandant's feet, which sent that officer berserk. In '78, the AF Col. still suffered from double vision (which permanently ended his flying days) from the Vietnamese Col.'s frenzied application of a wooden baton. From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the 47FW/DO (F-4E's).  He spent 6 years in the "Hilton"- the first three of which he was "missing in action".  His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.  His group, too, got the cleaned, fed, clothed routine in preparation for a "peace delegation" visit.

They, however, had time and devised a plan to get word to the world that they still survived.  Each man secreted a tiny piece of paper, with his SSN on it, in the palm of his hand.  When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each man's hand and asking little encouraging snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane treatment from your benevolent captors?" Believing this HAD to be an act, they each palmed her their sliver of paper.

She took them all without missing a beat.  At the end of the line and once the camera stopped rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs, she turned to the officer in charge and handed him the little pile of papers. Three men died from the subsequent beatings. Col. Carrigan was almost number four but he survived, which is the only reason we know about her actions that day.

I was a civilian economic development advisor in Vietnam, and was captured by the North Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in 1968, and held for over 5 years.  I spent 27 months in solitary confinement, one year in a cage in Cambodia, and one year in a "black box" in Hanoi.  My North Vietnamese captors deliberately poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the Cambodian border.

At one time, I was weighing approximately 90 lbs.  (My normal weight is 170 lbs.) We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."

When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by the camp communist political officer if I would be willing to meet with Jane Fonda.  I said yes, for I would like to tell her about the real treatment we POWs received different from the treatment purported by the North Vietnamese, and parroted by Jane Fonda, as "humane and lenient." Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky floor on my knees with outstretched arms with a large amount of steel placed on my hands, and beaten with a bamboo cane till my arms dipped.

I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda for a couple of hours after I was released.  I asked her if she would be willing to debate me on TV. She did not answer me.

This does not exemplify someone who should be honored as part of "100 Years of Great Women." Lest we forget..."100 years of great women" should never include a traitor whose hands are covered with the blood of so many patriots.  There are few things I have strong visceral reactions to, but Hanoi Jane's participation in blatant treason, is one of them.

Please take the time to forward to as many people as you possibly can. It will eventually end up on her computer and she needs to know that we will never forget.
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Offline ra

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« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2003, 02:43:00 PM »
Jane Fonda is dirt, but most of this is BS.

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« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2003, 02:43:11 PM »
While Fonda is a squeak, let us not go through this again.  :rolleyes:

http://www.snopes.com/military/fonda.htm

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« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2003, 03:45:43 PM »
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Originally posted by ra
Jane Fonda is dirt, but most of this is BS.


Not Bs ra. Well documented facts.
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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2003, 03:57:34 PM »
Not facts at all... please check your sources, or Snopes.

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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2003, 04:23:30 PM »
That woman is a pathetic harpy squeak.

But what is also pathetic is the people who want really, really hard to believe that this truly happened. They get hard-ons when they read this urban legend.

Jane Fonda DID propaganda for N.Korea, however, the events described in that article are mostly false.

I guess people love hating a really bad villain.
« Last Edit: April 28, 2003, 04:27:44 PM by Animal »

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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2003, 05:02:37 PM »
I hope she rots in HELL:mad:

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« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2003, 05:19:56 PM »
Good to know the facts on the slips of paper thing.  

Doesn't lessen the fact that she deserves a big for what she did do.

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« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2003, 05:53:02 PM »
If this was the things I hate thread, Hanoi Jane would be first on the list.  Second would be the lies about what she did.
 She did enough that I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire, but most of the crud listed in the first post is bs.
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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2003, 05:58:15 PM »
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I wouldn't piss on her if she was on fire

I would.

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« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2003, 09:11:10 PM »
Was in the service at that time everybit of that is the truth. They need to show the footage that was on CBS with Walter Cronkite, as anchor showing her trip. Ask any Viet vet.

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2003, 09:59:21 PM »
Whether the above is true or not she still is sh*t and deserves nothing better than to be drawn, quarterd, burned, hanged, shot and then dismembered, buried and forgotten about.

Like Sean Penn who thought that he knew that he could get to the bottom of things, who the F@CK do these people think they are with their extremely large egos that they think that THEY know exactely know what is going on in a foreign country and that THEY can go there a show the whole world the truth.  That only they are right and that this foreign government is being 100% truthfull with them and allowing them to see the perfuct truth about said country.  Just shows you how stupid these people are.

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btw...is there a way to register our complaint against Hanoi Jane being included in the 100 most whatever the f@ck women?
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« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2003, 08:33:28 AM »
Most of these F*ckheads never even finished High School.

Yet they know more about foreign policy than our elected leaders, the CIA, and the joint chiefs.

Get the f*ck out of her.

Go back to LA, make your ****ty movies, drink Lattes at a trendy cafe, and laugh at the little people, but by all means, shut the F*ck up.



F*cking potato.

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« Reply #13 on: April 29, 2003, 08:36:06 AM »
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Most of these F*ckheads never even finished High School.

Yet they know more about foreign policy than our elected leaders, the CIA, and the joint chiefs.

Get the f*ck out of her.

Go back to LA, make your ****ty movies, drink Lattes at a trendy cafe, and laugh at the little people, but by all means, shut the F*ck up.



F*cking potato.


Know what I'm going to do? I swear this is going to happen, you'll read about it, and I'm going to get arrested for it.

When she's dead, I'm going to get all my friends who are Vietnam vets, and we're going to take a trip to her grave. We'll call the media, and just as the cameras start rolling, we're going to encircle, drop trow, and piss on her grave. I promise you!

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« Reply #14 on: April 29, 2003, 09:54:08 AM »
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(Finally, in an interview in 2000, almost thirty years after the fact, Fonda admitted: "I will go to my grave regretting the photograph of me in an anti-aircraft carrier, which looks like I was trying to shoot at American planes. It hurt so many soldiers. It galvanized such hostility. It was the most horrible thing I could possibly have done. It was just thoughtless.")