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Offline ygsmilo

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« on: April 29, 2003, 04:46:05 PM »
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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2003, 04:48:32 PM »
It would help the Iraqi people to get back on their feet.
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #2 on: April 29, 2003, 04:51:05 PM »
It's one of the things they were afraid of from the very beginning and thus the opposition.
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« Reply #3 on: April 29, 2003, 04:53:57 PM »
As I understand it, there is some considerable debate about whether to use "odious debt" or not.  The problem lies in which governments qualify...  Would China or Iran qualify, for example?
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« Reply #4 on: April 29, 2003, 06:08:28 PM »
I'm not sure that it's our (the US) decision despite what congress might think.

Let's not forget that Iraq has plenty of oil (which translates into lots of money) so let's not treat them like a pauper 3rd world country.

I'm not on Russia's or France's side.  Quite the opposite.  I think these countries and their leaders are guilty of violating UN sanctions and should be held accountable.
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« Reply #5 on: April 30, 2003, 04:55:03 AM »
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I think these countries and their leaders are guilty of violating UN sanctions and should be held accountable.


Did you realise those are debts from even before first gulf war?
There was no sanctions back then :>
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« Reply #6 on: April 30, 2003, 05:12:03 AM »
"Odious debt"......

I like the idea.

I will start to petition my "joke" prime minister to hate all the country we have debts with.

mmmm.....

Do you think I can apply the principle to my bank?

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« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2003, 09:08:51 AM »
Fishu, I think he meant the alleged dealings in items after the first gulf war by those countries.
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« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2003, 01:19:01 PM »
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Did you realise those are debts from even before first gulf war?
There was no sanctions back then :>


More  to say, significant part of Iraqi debt to USSR was made even before Saddam Hussein...

Most of it are payments for oil equipment and other civilian contracts.

How about forgiving us all the USSR debts, taken by "evil communists"?

I doubt that Russian government thought we will get any of that debts back. But we like the practical way of thinking, the idea to free your puppets from debt is nice American free market and capitalism. Looks like USSR/Russia payed for the equipment that will be used to pump oil for American corporations.
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« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2003, 01:36:02 PM »
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Most of it are payments for oil equipment and other civilian contracts.
LOL! You're a funny guy baroda.  I imagine some of it was those 1 million AKs that Iraq bought too, and those missiles, and those GPS jammers, and those spare tank parts, and those... well... I think you get the picture.

Oil equipment and civilian contracts.  LOL!

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Offline OIO

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« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2003, 01:41:25 PM »
Bush Say "BLACKJACK!"

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« Reply #11 on: April 30, 2003, 01:59:26 PM »
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LOL! You're a funny guy baroda.  I imagine some of it was those 1 million AKs that Iraq bought too, and those missiles, and those GPS jammers, and those spare tank parts, and those... well... I think you get the picture.

Oil equipment and civilian contracts.  LOL!

MiniD


Do you have acsess to Soviet Foreign Trade Ministry archives?...

Million Kalashnikovs? What I see in the news are mostly Romanian and other non-Soviet copies.

GPS jammers?! Any of them found? Please think before you post.

Spare parts for Polish and Chinese tanks are hard to buy in Russia. BTW, did you know that Iraq produced it's own version of T-72?

And once again: many debts were made even before Saddam.
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« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2003, 02:10:47 PM »
Boroda,

About every country 'produced' their own version of exported T-72's..
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2003, 02:16:23 PM »
You are really funny baroda.  And I mean that in a not too flattering way.  Watching you post is like watching Dustin Hoffman in "Rain Man"... only you can't count.

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2003, 02:23:55 PM »
Here's a chance for those "no war" countries to prove they have Iraq's interest at heart. Guess we'll see.
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