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« Reply #60 on: May 02, 2003, 04:52:13 PM »
Tiffie all the way baby!

(sometimes a A5, D9, or La5 for a break).

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« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2003, 05:51:47 PM »
Lazs,
how about the lack of appeal of certain planes to other people? like those that seem smurfy, archaic, easy to get kills in, easy to evade shots from 5:1s in, boring, easy to get 1 burst kill snapshots in, easy to kill from 1.3K out in, used by everyone else, that force you to fly the way you don't like to.

sound familiar? why doesn't everyone fly the same damn planes and forget the challenge and fun of diversity?
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« Reply #62 on: May 02, 2003, 09:26:46 PM »
First plane was the 190a8, then 190a5. Because I simply love the radial 190s and I wanted to start flying in one. Still my fav planes, but I`m givig the 109s more attenion in the recent past.

109g2 for it`s good turning and great weapons package - I always take gondolas on it.

The 109g10 for the tater gun and killer engine, feels like "Defence of the Reich" all the way.

110s for great loadouts and the sheer amount of (center mounted !!!) cannons.

A6M for an axis ride off carrirers. Turns like   hell, and nice cannons. Too slow for non-carrier work though-

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« Reply #63 on: May 02, 2003, 09:28:18 PM »
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You know they used to make the engine cowlings for P-38s at Rohr in Chula Vista?



Really?  I never knew that.  Always thought everything was handled at the Lockhead plant up near L.A.


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« Reply #64 on: May 02, 2003, 10:52:10 PM »
Although I've always been fascinated with German planes I've flown the Mossie almost exclusively for months now.  I fly it because it is under-rated at an ENY of 40 and I like to save up fighter perks to fly the 262 which I promptly lose.

The Mossie is well armed, quite fast, the guns are extremely easy to hit, and most people are taken by surprise at how it turns.  If you get someone in close behind you, scissors are easy due to the energy bleed in any vertical turn so its easy to get someone to overshoot you.  Anyhow that's my 2 cents or so.  

Plus I like to hit ground targets as well....great all-around plane for everything.

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« Reply #65 on: May 03, 2003, 12:35:41 AM »
alright, I admit, I like the G10. Flew it again tonight and last night with gondolas, after not flying it at all for 2 months-I was surprised what a performant aircraft it is in terms of climbing and diving and maximum speed. Needs careful aiming with only one cannon and 60 rounds (each hit equals a certain kill on all fighters). Also, when it gets too fast in a dive the controls lose effectiveness. Flies for a long time if oil is hit. Landing is fun :)

For bombers, I like the B26, using it as a gunship ,usually in a furball over an enemy airfield, after I dropped my bombs. Fun!!!!

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« Reply #66 on: May 03, 2003, 03:14:45 AM »
P-47D25: 6x50cal loadout cause i like the way it feels, looks and it makes me sweat in a dogfight. IMO its also the best B&Z bird. Have been a jug freak since i saw OnePunch (Tequilla) play around it a year or 2 back, Started reading about it and fell even more in love with it.

D11: are even prettyer and turns better but does not feel that comfy to me.

D30: used to fly em alot but i can't stand the shiny colour anymore :D

F4U-1 or C for cv work.

190's and 109's are fun sometimes to.

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« Reply #67 on: May 03, 2003, 09:34:15 AM »
ackack... which planes are on my approved list?   moot... what's the matter? strike a nerve?  what planes do you like the (LOL) "difficult" LW ones?
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« Reply #68 on: May 03, 2003, 10:04:07 AM »
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ackack... which planes are on my approved list?   moot... what's the matter? strike a nerve?  what planes do you like the (LOL) "difficult" LW ones?
lazs


I haven't found any of the luftwaffles rides hard to fly or kill in. I just noticed the poor handling and stall characteristics.
Is that why you say they are hard? Cause they fly like a pos?

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« Reply #69 on: May 03, 2003, 10:10:16 AM »
because you don't have to have much imagination to fly one... choices of action are limited.   Choice of reaction are limited.
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« Reply #70 on: May 03, 2003, 11:08:57 AM »
And is it hard to do what the D9 does badly with a spit9?

The D9, with its handicap of stall, is hard to out turn, out scissor, out do in any stall/airbraking/critical E retention in hard maneuvers with a plane that doesn't have that turn and stall handicap?

No one has a hard time out turning a P47 with a Yaku, a 152 with a spit9, an FM2 with an A6M2.

Not every D9 pilot will run from a 1/2/3/4:1 if caught slow.
Not every FM2 pilot will play it low and slow 100% of the time.

LW planes fly like pos? then what's the reason to call them easy to kill in?

Don't have much imagination to fly LW? How else, besides better timing, do you beat a plane that's without the brick handicap in the angles? Choices of reaction are limited, aren't the FM2 actions limited? turn or die?  

You want to win a fight with the underdog plane, in every kind of fight?
If the D9 takes no imagination to BnZ the slower earlier planes, the spit5 doesn't take much to TnB the late war bricks.

The 152 is hard to survive and get kills in outnumbered, out stalled fights, for example against P51D, spit5, and another 152, all higher at engagement. What exactly does flying a 152 do to the pilot's brain that could not possibly happen in the brain of one flying an FM2? You think FM2 is difficult? if any plane is difficult it's the 202. No speed, no guns, no climb. you just get to play hamster wheel out evading and out turning most planes that slow down and then get assists for it.

Most players don't ride the edge of stall when needed to, they hang on about 10-20% less than you(general), so what's the challenge in pulling the stick harder than them in a plane of equal turning?

Take a modern japanese pure sports car and race it against a 70s muscle car, and tell the other guy hes got no challenge out of it because he's both nailing the apexes from better judgement and beating you at exit speed with more engine, both thanks only to his bigger displacement.
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« Reply #71 on: May 03, 2003, 12:48:06 PM »
USA all the way with me!

My favs are F6F and P-51B with F4U-1 and P-51D close behind.  With the new makeover, that P-51D was too pretty for me not to fly her more.  But the last two months I've been flying the F4F-4 in the MA (not the FM2.)  It's been interesting.

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« Reply #72 on: May 03, 2003, 12:55:36 PM »
Yea, the FM2 takes a real master of the skies to fly one. This is due mainly to overwhelming difficulty of it`s flight characteristics. The pressure of the constant decision on which tactic to employ next will wear down and discourage the average mortal. You have to stay constantly alert and on your toes to decide "DUUUHHH , do I turn or should I turn". :D
  The choices alone usualy frightens and scares off all but the true ace. I mean after all, you have to decide if you want the training wheel cap covers in pink or purple.
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« Reply #73 on: May 03, 2003, 04:56:42 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
ackack... which planes are on my approved list?   moot... what's the matter? strike a nerve?  what planes do you like the (LOL) "difficult" LW ones?
lazs



I only fly the P-38.  It's the plane I've flown in all online flight sims I've played since starting over 10 years ago.  Nice try though, better luck next time.


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« Reply #74 on: May 03, 2003, 05:19:24 PM »
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Originally posted by vorticon
you stated

 

then your sig reads

"Some pilots are good, some pilots are great but the best of all flew the P-38!"

little hypocrytical huh...

saying that it doesnt matter what it is you fly then your sig is basicly saying that the best pilots flew the p38...mildly hypocritical...just enough for me the hijack the post anyway



Hmmm...I see you tried editing your post to make yourself look less stupid.  Too bad it didn't work.  

In case you didn't know what hypocrisy means, here's the definition for you.

Hypocrisy - The practice of expressing feelings, beliefs, or virtues one does not hold or possess.

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