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Offline GtoRA2

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« Reply #15 on: May 05, 2003, 04:31:21 PM »
BAH! Who cares about money? It may be partly about money for lucas, but he acts like it is all about his art, and to me his art has gone right into the **** house!


lol :D
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« Reply #16 on: May 05, 2003, 05:07:31 PM »
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If you want Star Wars IV-VI or Indy Jones 1-3 on DVD, go to http://www.megadiscs.iwebland.com/  They're all quality xfers from laser disc and cheap too.  Good substitutes until the real deal comes out.


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Holy crap! Is this legal? If it is, I'm all over that. I've been steamed for many years because Star Wars IV-VI and Raiders has not been available on DVD.

SOB, quality is pretty good, though?
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« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2003, 05:21:38 PM »
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BAH! Who cares about money? It may be partly about money for lucas, but he acts like it is all about his art, and to me his art has gone right into the **** house!


lol :D


Well, to be honest I hated Jar Jar too man.  But, guess what, I paid $8 to see it and then bought the DVD (for my son).  ;)
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« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2003, 05:39:28 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2003, 05:53:08 PM »
Actually I think Lucas has kept his target audience all along. Its just us that got older.

4-6 was targeted at 7-15 yr old kids. We loved it because we were in that age when they came.

1-3 is ALSO targeted at 7-15 yr old kids. Now we hate it because we are not in that age anymore, and we dont understand that shrecking jar jar crap and the ridiculous waterfrog-creatures, and we HATE anakin in both 1 and 2 because in 1 he is an obnoxious kid, and in 2 he is an obnoxious teenager. AND he gets to make out with Natalie Portman...yessss  we hatesss him.
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« Reply #20 on: May 05, 2003, 07:28:37 PM »
I saw StarWars in 77 visiting my older brother in College.  I was 13 back then.  I enjoyed it but was kinda amazed by the stories of people seeing it 200 times (that was back in 77).

Guess Im a party pooper but Ive just simply enjoyed all of em.
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« Reply #21 on: May 05, 2003, 08:11:18 PM »
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As a diehard Star Wars fan... constantly defending the integrity of Lucas and the first two Episodes... even I must admit that I agree with much of what you are saying...

Episode I sucked... 20 minutes worth of good "Star Warsy" film.

Episode II sucked... 45 minutes worth of good "Star Warsy" film.

Episode III will suck... maybe an hour of good footage...

The attempt to make the movie enjoyable for children has ripped the feel from the movies - the dark, desperate, and hopeless mood.  WTF is Jar Jar Binks?  If there was any charectar in any movie... EVER... that has single handly ruined the entire experience... he (she?) is it.

The technology also got in the way... by that I mean the "universe" technology and the film technology.  Mouth peices worn to allow you to breath underwater?  Please.  Sounds like a Star Trek movie to me... Number one, ready the away team and equip them with titanium breath pieces... make it so, engage... and other catchy phrases.

Too much explaining... I dont want to know how the Force works... dont spend 5 minutes explaining it to me... Ben's explaination in the first movie was enough... open for debate... the stuff than makes a fan base a cult.  There is nothing to debate with the new movies.  Its around us, teh rock, the tree, it binds us, makes us grow... ****ing awesome.  It is not the result of a symbiate (sp?) relationship between little bugs in your blood stream and your brain, or whatever the **** Lucas was smoking... and we can now measure the number of these little parasites?  (Theres more of that ST crap... get out the Imperial Tricorder Master Kenobi... **** off)

Corney dialouge.  Oh.  My.  God.  It was actually embarressing to be in the theater during some of the exchanges... who me?  No, no, I was hear to see Rambo VIII... honest... I must have stumbled into the wrong theatre.

Crap, crap, crap dialouge... and TOO MUCH!!!  Some of the best scenes/lines in the original three were the shortest.  As an example, I offer the below captioned translations.

Episode V:  "I am your father."

Episode I translation:  "I happen to be your father from long ago and now Im very angry because Ben lied to you and Im sorry I cut your hand off with my electrum lightsaber, which is composed of synthetic crysals to get that all powerful color and special sound, but fear not as your wound will cautorize (sp?) and heal within time oh son."

Crap.

Episode V:  "Bring my shuttle."

Episode I translation:  "Please bring my space faring LD-24 Delta wing space faring vehicle that can do 0 to 60  parsecs in 3 nanoseconds, which is the fastest vechile ever made.  In case you were wondering, the engines are Super Duper Afterburning Turbojets capable of outrunning any ship in the galaxy."

Crap, crap, and more crap.  Im sick of typing.  **** Lucas... he ruined a perfectly good thing because he had one too many drinks with Steven that night... have you seen the "Special Edition" SW movies?  More crap... the dialouge is ****... again... someone had the bright idea to change EVERY SINGLE LINE from EVERY SINGLE CHARECTAR wearing a mask... crap, crap, crap.

Die Lucus, Die.  Die a horrible death at the hands of your plastic lightsaber wielding fans.  We will beat you into submission and feast upon your uncooked flesh as we dance around the flaming pile of your worthless movies.

Die.

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« Reply #22 on: May 05, 2003, 08:17:54 PM »
Yeah think Hortlund hit the nail on the head there, its us ,we are old :-( <---30

I glance over at the mantle piece in my room where my original star wars figures are lined up , Imperials and cantina creatures on the left Luke, han, leia, chewy, C3, R2, Obi 1 on the right, hhmmmmmm oh childhood.  :)
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« Reply #23 on: May 05, 2003, 08:38:49 PM »
Despite its many flaws, I respect Episode I because it's the only movie I've ever seen where things turn out bright, cheery, and happy in the end... except that the bad guy wins.

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« Reply #24 on: May 05, 2003, 08:40:49 PM »
People lose their gift and vision. Usually through arrogance. That is hwhat has happend to George Lucas after movie 2. But we insist on seeing star wars movies so they make them.

Hes washed up as a creative person. Has been for 20 years. End of story.
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« Reply #25 on: May 06, 2003, 01:35:12 AM »
The movies (1 and 2) were OK, but man, some of the acting.  OUCH!

How did Obi-Wan get his bellybutton kicked so handily by Dooku in a lightsabre duel after beating Maul in the first movie.  Then he just lays there.  Hell, what a wuss!!  What, he got two small cuts? After Yoda saved his sorry butt, he gets right up and starts walking around.  If I was Yoda, I'd have him start lightsabre training all over again!

Sorry guys, I got carried away there!  One of the things that really bothered me.  Lucas had the chance to make an incredible scene there and he screwed it up.  Dumb Ass!

OK, Im done! :)
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« Reply #26 on: May 06, 2003, 01:46:46 AM »
What about Ren and Stimpy?   Any good?  I love Beavis and Butthead..................... .........................

I agree, the latest StarWars films left me craving for basic stuff, yet I bought the DVDs ....I am fuc*ed up, right?
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« Reply #27 on: May 06, 2003, 03:02:53 AM »
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Holy crap! Is this legal? If it is, I'm all over that. I've been steamed for many years because Star Wars IV-VI and Raiders has not been available on DVD.

SOB, quality is pretty good, though?


Nope, not legal, but whaddya gonna do when the real deal is non-existant.  This is my third set of Ep IV-VI on DVD, and this is leaps and bounds beyond the first two.  I have no doubt that the official release (if and when it comes) will be better, but I'd put this up against any standard movie released on DVD.  Indy looks good too, tho' I didn't really scrutinize it like I did the star wars ones.  They're definitely worthy until the real thing hits the shelves.

-edit- Oh, and they come shipped in a manilla envelope from Thailand...including the DVD and cover art.  You have to provide the keep case.


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« Reply #28 on: May 06, 2003, 09:40:21 AM »
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I think its the actors. The new actors are no where near as captivating as ole Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher. ect. Plus the CGI makes it so unrealistic, you think you're watching a cartoon.  At least with the old monster makeup you had substance, an actual actor.



I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH WHAT HE SAID!
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« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2003, 09:44:15 AM »
Anynody sees the analogy between how Palpatine got to power and how Hitler did it?
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