Author Topic: Talk about a bunch of LOSERS (Read 2278 times)

anonymous · « **Reply #30 on:** May 08, 2003, 03:11:20 AM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
You obviously have never been in any branch of the Military. When Brass is scheduled to arrive it is a highly orchestrated event. The POD details who will be present and what you wear.
Get off that Holy Republican Soap Box and state facts, not some twisted viewpoint.

whoops forgot to finish answer there sorry about that. my understanding was that additional persons ordered to attend speech by clinton more than once as they couldnt count on everyone showing up. from personal experience i was always interested in hearing what the top guy had to say even clinton. but you gotta admit that certain presidents have been more popular with the guys than others. my viewpoint isnt twisted by the way, unless somehow you are my ex wife.

BGBMAW · « **Reply #31 on:** May 08, 2003, 04:50:01 AM »

Just so we can compare..

Do you guys who "think " our President was wrong for this CV landing(which i loved)...

Do u think 1) Abraham Lincoln should no thave given an Adress from the Battlefiled?

Do u think 2) The Japanese surrender on the Missori i swrong also?

If you do..then I will tell how idiotic and whaa..you are.

Love
BiGB

ra · « **Reply #32 on:** May 08, 2003, 07:16:30 AM »

Tempest in a teapot here. The Dems are desperate.

Realistically, no president ever has to leave the White House to do his job. Even the State of the Union can be delivered to Congress by someone else, as it used to be. So any time a President flys on AF1, or in a helicopter to Camp David, he is 'wasting' taxpayer's money.

But the reality is that presidents like to travel around the country and the world. After Clinton's pollsters found out that his approval rating went way up every time he left the country, he practically wore out AF1 visiting every country in the world with a runway long enough to land on. And the per hour cost of operating AF1 is probably 10 times what it costs to operate a Viking. Not to mention that Navy pilots need a certain number of flight hours and carrier landings per month to stay current, so the flight had some merit for the taxpayer. This trip was a photo op for sure, but a comparatively cheap one.

You can tell when Waxman is blowing smoke up your butt, his nostrils get really big.

ra

Eagler · « **Reply #33 on:** May 08, 2003, 07:25:10 AM »

dems squirmin again .. LOL

gotta love it when an old gezzer like byrd is allowed to be their mouth piece

Ripsnort · « **Reply #34 on:** May 08, 2003, 07:45:59 AM »

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Originally posted by Eagler
dems squirmin again .. LOL

gotta love it when an old gezzer like byrd is allowed to be their mouth piece

Hehe, yep, like the racist Dems of old, he carry's on the Souths past with every opening of his mouth.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #35 on:** May 08, 2003, 09:33:28 AM »

I saw nothing wrong with what Bush did.

He came to see the troops after the war was over which is nothing new for a President.

How he got there showed the type of President he is. He didn't take the safe way he took the way that was more impressive to the people he was there to visit.

Did he do it for his re-election? Sure!

But he also did it for the troops AND because I bet it was fun as hell!

In the long run who really gives a rat's bellybutton HOW he got on the ship? He was there to support the troops and THAT is all that should matter.

Yeager · « **Reply #36 on:** May 08, 2003, 09:42:24 AM »

Democrats are morons. Unfortunately, theres alot of em.

Airhead · « **Reply #37 on:** May 08, 2003, 11:13:07 AM »

As a veteran I would have been honored to have my Commander In Chief visit my duty station- the boost to morale by having the President thanking the military personally for a job well done is money well spent. Far worse was Clinton stopping air traffic at LAX while he was getting a haircut aboard Air Force One.

That's what I hate about politics. I'm close on many issues with the Dems' philosophy but their "leadership" is starting to look nitpicky and shrill. It's unfortunate that in a country that has so many exceptional people we end up with the leadership we have- on both sides of the aisle.

Tumor · « **Reply #38 on:** May 08, 2003, 02:01:43 PM »

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Originally posted by Erlkonig
LOL, the troops deserve to be campaign props in a wasteful, grandstanding stunt?

It's only wasteful and grandstanding when your scared ****less it will work as intended. The man has the support of his troops.. deal with it.

Tumor · « **Reply #39 on:** May 08, 2003, 02:02:23 PM »

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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
The unspoken notion of the "ornamental enlisted" was one in the list of many reasons why I got out of the USN.

Your truly missed... no really.

Tumor · « **Reply #40 on:** May 08, 2003, 02:14:53 PM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
They certainly deserved the attention and the praise they've received. They earned a visit from the Command in Chief. They did not ask for, nor do they deserve, to serve as campaign props for Bush's or any politician's reelection campaign.

Therein lay the rub.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Opinions are like *******s wouldn't you say? Problem is, why should the President, OUR as in MY Commander in Chief, not do what he did considering the sacrifices these people contribute daily, let alone in the last 10 months? Because some whiny Democrats KNOW it's a positive step in promoting his re-election?... whether intended as such or not? Again.. I hope the Dem's continue to whine about it, I really do... just show's they how petty they are and illustrates the fact that they don't give two hoots about the military when their own political future is at stake.

Tumor · « **Reply #41 on:** May 08, 2003, 02:19:56 PM »

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Originally posted by rpm371
You obviously have never been in any branch of the Military. When Brass is scheduled to arrive it is a highly orchestrated event. The POD details who will be present and what you wear.
Get off that Holy Republican Soap Box and state facts, not some twisted viewpoint.

Been in the military since Reagan and the guys right. I've never seen anyone be told they HAD to attend when Reagan or either Bush came around. Clinton? ROFL!!!!!

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #42 on:** May 08, 2003, 02:29:54 PM »

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Originally posted by Tumor
Problem is, why should the President, OUR as in MY Commander in Chief, not do what he did considering the sacrifices these people contribute daily, let alone in the last 10 months?

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You missed the part where I said that the troops deserved a visit and speech from the Commander in Chief. I have absolutely no qualms with him talking to the troops, and I'm sure it was an event the crew will remember for the rest of their lives. That's awesome.

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Because some whiny Democrats KNOW it's a positive step in promoting his re-election?... whether intended as such or not? Again.. I hope the Dem's continue to whine about it, I really do... just show's they how petty they are and illustrates the fact that they don't give two hoots about the military when their own political future is at stake.

The issue, at least for me, isn't the president's speaking to the crew. That's part of his job. The problem was making an appearance and designing the entire event around a campaign point, right down to the banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished" hanging up behind him to serve as a de facto headline to any picture. Kudos to his appropriate recognition of the troops, but thumbs down on such a cynical way of going about it.

In addition, it's not clear that the event will benefit him at all for reasons mentioned earlier. Democrats certainly have a right to complain about it, though I think Democrats would benefit overall if they could just get Senator Byrd to shut up on every possible issue. The guy carries so much baggage that I doubt many Americans take him seriously. That he considers himself a mouthpiece for the party tells quite a bit about the strength of the Democratic leadership at this point.

-- Todd/Leviathn

Tumor · « **Reply #43 on:** May 08, 2003, 05:29:38 PM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying

........cynical way of going about it.

-- Todd/Leviathn [/B]

I'm sure it's just me but, I think every detail of what the President did and accomplished in his visit aboard ship was appropriate. Seriously just wondering,...who other than the media proclaimed this to be an election campaign event? Otherwise, the criticism IMHO is nothing more than a misguided attempt to discredit the president. To much attention to reading between the lines when the purpose was to thank the Troops and show that to the our nation in a grand manner. If it serves to bring up his approval rating, all the better and why not? Would you suggest the President had flown to the ship and quietly thanked the Troops down in a cargo-hold without being televised?

I am absolutely overjoyed that our troops were not shoved into the corner by political correctness in the literal sense. Seeing the Dem's cry about it just makes it better.

Martlet · « **Reply #44 on:** May 08, 2003, 05:31:30 PM »

Pot, kettle, black.

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