Author Topic: The Matrix:Reloaded...What a disappointment! (Read 2847 times)

Stang · « **Reply #60 on:** May 20, 2003, 12:32:14 AM »

I'm pretty sure that the only reason the Matrix didn't beat Spiderman for the largest opening weekend was because it opened the day before, and the first day ticket gross was not included... heard that today but not sure if that is the actual case, but it makes sense though. I'd like to see box office numbers based on numbers of ticket sales instead of how much they gross. As inflated as ticket prices have become, it's impossible to tell how one movie does to a comparable opener of a year or two earlier...

Wanker · « **Reply #61 on:** May 20, 2003, 08:57:00 AM »

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banana....read what you wrote again. Is a naked body or (heaven forbid) SEX what determines what gives a film an "R" rating? Oh dear, oh dear..... I guess its okay for 13 year olds to see graphic violence...but something horribly natural like our own sexuality should be condemed..at least until you are 18?

I wasn't making a morals judgment on the film, Curval....I just felt that some more nudity and gratuitous sex could've persuaded me to give it a more charitable rating.

Frankly, I'd rather have my son exposed to nudity and sex instead of violence and profanity. Then he can grow up to be a well-spoken, peace loving perv like his father!

Curval · « **Reply #62 on:** May 20, 2003, 09:15:19 AM »

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Originally posted by banana
Frankly, I'd rather have my son exposed to nudity and sex instead of violence and profanity. Then he can grow up to be a well-spoken, peace loving perv like his father!

Agreed.

What took you so long to reply?

lazs2 · « **Reply #63 on:** May 20, 2003, 09:45:59 AM »

nothing wrong with sex or violence ... u just have to be a little careful when you mix them. Profanity can be an art form.

Not really that interested in black chicks unless they don't look black.
lazs

Wanker · « **Reply #64 on:** May 20, 2003, 10:02:54 AM »

Lazs, you know that you've lost your powers of trolling ever since we met you in public at the con.

No matter how outrageous you act on this BBS, we all know you're a nice, friendly guy.

SLO · « **Reply #65 on:** May 20, 2003, 11:24:34 AM »

some scenes where just 'WTF is this' type thing......

not too many WOW's in this 2nd movie......

crowMAW · « **Reply #66 on:** May 20, 2003, 02:27:48 PM »

Well, I just saw it last night. It was pretty bad compared to the first movie. It desperately needed a good editor.

BUT...putting the bad parts of the movie aside...did everyone else pick up on the clue that the "real world" is still in the matrix? Some friends I saw it with disagree with me, but I'm pretty convinced that no one has been "freed" from the matrix.

narsus · « **Reply #67 on:** May 20, 2003, 03:37:26 PM »

crowMAW

My theory

The point of the architect

It is a matrix within a matrix!

The computers have done this 5 times before right?

They have this unruly 1% that will not accept the matrix

SO

They create a second matrix for these pain in the bellybutton non conformists to "Escape To"

Make them believe they are fighting a struggle that in reality is nothing more than another form of control.

So when Zion gets too big they purge it like a recycling bin in windows.

This makes sense because:

1) The timelines for the founding of Zion don't really make sense, fisburn says in the first movie,
"we are not quite sure when now is"... why not?

2) It is a very machine like logical way of controlling the 1%

3) A. Smith should not be able to do what he did coming into the "real word"

4) Neo should not be able to stop real life sentinels I mean they have freaking 1az3r B3@mz!! He is a ***** in rl!

5) All this messianic crap is in place to control the masses. The one, the oracle yadda yadda yadda

6) The whole battery thing is silly. I bet they use our minds as computers, I mean come on batteries? If we scorched the sky why not take to space. I mean they are machines. They can set up shop on any one of the planets in our system. We are not very efficient sources of energy.

Expect revolutions to incorporate another exponential shift in the complexity of the matrix.

Rememeber folks lies within lies, the matrix is about control.

crowMAW · « **Reply #68 on:** May 20, 2003, 04:01:54 PM »

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Originally posted by narsus
My theory

6) The whole battery thing is silly. I bet they use our minds as computers, I mean come on batteries? If we scorched the sky why not take to space. I mean they are machines. They can set up shop on any one of the planets in our system. We are not very efficient sources of energy.

Yup...definitely my thinking is along the same lines.

On #6: In the first movie, I thought it was dumb for humans to have "scorched the sky" since obviously the sun is necessary for human existence as well. So, it brings up a possibility that was foreshadowed by the Councilman: the matrix lets both humans and machines survive...the matrix may have even been constructed with the consent of the surviving humans.

Chairboy · « **Reply #69 on:** May 20, 2003, 04:22:53 PM »

Ok, before anyone speculates any further, I strongly suggest watching the Animatrix:

http://www.theanimatrix.com

This is official canon, approved by the Wachowski brothers, and explains how the Matrix came to be. The Second Rennaissance parts I and II are about the founding of the Matrix, the other two are stories that take place in the same Universe.

crowMAW · « **Reply #70 on:** May 21, 2003, 08:48:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ok, before anyone speculates any further, I strongly suggest watching the Animatrix:

WOW...thanks for the link Chair! Those little vignettes were flipping better than Matrix:Imploded itself! I also tracked down a copy of "The Last Flight of the Osiris", which was AWESOME! I'm still looking for "Kid's Story". I wish they had shown at least Renaissance I&II, Kid's Story, and Osiris at the start of Imploded...it would have really added to the movie since they are apperently very intertwined.

ramzey · « **Reply #71 on:** May 23, 2003, 10:28:41 PM »

i just finish watching,
i have same feelings like most of u write here and
dumbest end of cinema movie i ever seen, good for tv serie

im disappointed

this is secound disappointmend for expected product/movie this year. First was IL2FB

ramzey

Chairboy · « **Reply #72 on:** May 23, 2003, 11:09:40 PM »

Ah, common mistake. Remember, it wasn't the END, this is just half of a two parter. The second part comes out in November.

The Matrix is a full movie, but Reloaded and Revolutions are two parts of a single story.

SOB · « **Reply #73 on:** May 24, 2003, 01:03:47 AM »

I still can't figure out what all of you whiners were expecting. I thought it was a great movie.

SOB

ramzey · « **Reply #74 on:** May 24, 2003, 05:38:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Chairboy
Ah, common mistake. Remember, it wasn't the END, this is just half of a two parter. The second part comes out in November.

The Matrix is a full movie, but Reloaded and Revolutions are two parts of a single story.

i know it was not end, thats why im unhappy
when i start watching i expect full story, not cuted parts.
I can say noone tould me its a only part with end like many crime story series on tv. Thats why im disappointed. If i know that i will wait till secound part and watch them together
Did u live cinema happy? in not.

ramzey