why do you hate the Lagg7 ?

[bfreek]

?

[udet]

maybe it's cause I'm not a hot pilot like you

[Maverick]

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[Duedel]

I dont hate the La7 i like it!

Its really a great plane in RL and in AH. Sometimes (i have to admitt) i take it for base defense.
The bad thing is the La7 is to easy to fly to give me the fun i want to have in AH. It is no challange and its boring cause its superior in AH combat alts. OTOH it is very interesting if u get bounced by a La7. Most times ur dead but its fun to try to kill it inn ur 190A8.

I would like to see less La7 and less Spit and less N1k just for more diversity ( to Flyboy in his P40).

BTW a little tip for newbies: I can only recommend to NOT take N1k Spit Lala. Instead take a F4U P47 KI61 205 110 190 109 P40 F6F... cause these pllanes will teach u ACM.

[Ike 2K#]

Lavochkin La-7 is a perfect plane built for defensive mode. I recomend to bring typhoon or P-38 if you gonna fight enemy planes and straffe targets in 1 sortie.

[Kweassa]

La-7 is not a LaGG.

 ...

ps) Virtually as fast as the Tempest, has three cannons, 450 rounds of 20mms, and boasts outstanding conditions as an MA fighter, and it is unperked. Plenty enough reason for me to hate 'em.

[SlapShot]

"Virtually as fast as the Tempest"

Key word here is virtually ... Does it fly any faster than its supposed to fly ?

"has three cannons"

Big deal ... probably the WORST cannons of any WWII airplane. Ballistic suck compared to other cannon equipped planes.

"450 rounds of 20mms"

Not alot by any standard.

"boasts outstanding conditions as an MA fighter"

Is the AH version flying out of its RL envelope ?

The real reason that the La-7 is not liked ...

"The La-7 was a development of the La-5, which was very similar in appearance. It was fitted with a 1850hp (1380Kw) Shvetsov radial engine. Armament was increased to three ShVak 20mm cannons. The oil radiator was moved to the lower center of the fuselage. The La-7 had increase in speed of about 10-15mph over the La-5."

"Due to the improvements it was preferred by many Soviet Aces for its speed, maneuverability, firepower and general performance. The La-7 prototype first flew in early 1944.
The La-7 was about 44mph faster than the FW-190 (its main nemesis)."

"With its improvements over the previous Lavochkin fighters, the La-7 became the preferred mount of many of the Soviet air force's top aces like Ivan Kozhedub (62 kills) and Major Sultan Amet-Khan (30 kills). Combat experience demonstrated the La-7's ability to tangle with the best of the Luftwaffe, the Bf109 and the FW190 at nearly any altitude."

I would assume that its mostly the FW jockeys who dislike the La-7 the most, cause the La-7 is one of the few planes that it can't run from when they have made a mistake.

The La-7 is not perked cause it keeps the runners in check !!!

[SirLoin]

I don't hate the La7,I hate the people that fly them.

[Saurdaukar]

People dislike the La7 because at the altitudes that most fighting is done in the MA, the La7 is the fastest aircraft.  It can engage and disengage at will.

As an example - lets say your in the middle of a great fight with an La7, you then gain the advantage and will be in a position to fire soon.  The La7 can basicaly choose to turn tail and run - and you cant do anything about it.  So you chase for a minute, give up, turn around, to go find someone else.  Once the La7 sees you have disengaged, he will turn and follow - catch you - engage you, loose the advantage, run away again, rinse, repeat.

Its smart flying on the part of the La7 guy, but again, just like the N1k, the La7 allows the pilot to make multiple mistakes during the course of an engagement and still dictate the pace of the fight.  It just gets tiresome after awhile.

[SunKing]

Another couple reasons to be burned out on the LA7 plague.

1)  2/3 of all enemy planes are the LA7. It's getting really old.

2) Certain vets still only fly the LA7 and continue to bash newbies on channel 1 over how "great they are". It would different if they had the grapefruits to actually fly a plane that took skill/courage/ACM to survive instead of flying straight lines back and forth.

3) Face it we all know you fly it to run away from threats, not to chase them down.

[CMC Airboss]

LaGG 7 doesn't exist, but if it did I'm sure I'd like it!  Both as a ride and as a target.

MiG

[Duedel]

Originally posted by Saurdaukar
People dislike the La7 because at the altitudes that most fighting is done in the MA, the La7 is the fastest aircraft.  It can engage and disengage at will.

This is not (only) a matter of speed its a matter of acceleration.

[SlapShot]

Saurdaukar ... how 'bout this scenario
 
As an example - lets say your in the middle of a great fight with an 190, you then gain the advantage and will be in a position to fire soon. The 190 can basicaly choose to turn tail and run - and you cant do anything about it. So you chase for a minute, give up, turn around, to go find someone else. Once the 190 sees you have disengaged, he will turn and follow - catch you - engage you, loose the advantage, run away again, rinse, repeat.

Its smart flying on the part of the 190 guy, but again, just like the 109, the 190 allows the pilot to make multiple mistakes during the course of an engagement and still dictate the pace of the fight. It just gets tiresome after awhile.

The thing that will piss the 190/109 pilot the most is that if in the scenario above, they are fighting an La-7, then can't get away.

SunKing ...

1) 2/3 of all enemy planes are the LA7. It's getting really old.

Complete conjecture on your part. This is not what I see at all. Show some cold hard facts to support this.

2) Certain vets still only fly the LA7 and continue to bash newbies on channel 1 over how "great they are". It would different if they had the grapefruits to actually fly a plane that took skill/courage/ACM to survive instead of flying straight lines back and forth.

Never have I seen anyone on Ch 1 even remotely extoll how "great they are", nevermind "bash" them about it.

Please ... what plane(s) does one have to fly in order to be a card carrying member in your "grapefruit" club. On second thought, I like mine just the way they are. I don't need to be adjust big fruits in my pants everytime I stand up.

3) Face it we all know you fly it to run away from threats, not to chase them down.

LOL ... yup, the whine to perk La-7 is because all La-7 pilots run from threats. Just think about the logic of your statement ... stupid ... right ?

[Ike 2K#]

has anyone been in a mission where everyone flies Lavochkin La-7s as a bomber escort for the IL-2s and Yak-9T as the AAA (ack) supression?

[Kweassa]

So?

 I hate unperked G-10s, D-9s, P-51Ds, Yak-9Us, Typhoons and P-38Ls too.

 Satisfied now?

 Where's this assumption coming from that the people who hate La-7s, love to fly something else just as fast?