Anatomy of a suicide dweeb.

[airbumba]

....and I got cable for this?

Think of all the nice shrubs I coulda planted...

[nopoop]

Originally posted by Apache
You forgot to end you post with "nanny nanny boo boo".

LOL

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by Hyrax81st


I don't intentionally suicide planes when JABOing but the fact is, I get shot down quite a bit by "elite" pilots who are flying Spit 5's and La7's to protect their base.  

Which brings up another point.  A lot that are being branded 'suicide dweebs' are the ones like you.  The ones that don't have any intention of dying but unfortunately things don't go as planned and you're killed during your attack run.  Just because you died as you were bombing, you called branded a 'suicide dweeb'.   Last night attacking A19, I was making my dive run on the town and as I pickled off my two 1,000 pounders, the town ack got lucky and took off my port wing, which then pretty much turned my P-38L into a lawn dart.  Before I crashed though, I fired off my 10 rockets and destroyed some more buildings in the town before my plane and I left a crater.  Afterwards some Rookie at A19 started calling me a 'suicide dweeb' because of it.


Ack-Ack

[rshubert]

One guy makes my point, and throws it against me.  I am not trying to limit you, sax.   You're trying to make up rules of conduct in order to limit me.  Get it?  

I am a little bit older than the "me" generation.  I come from the "get stoned and leave everybody else alone" generation, but I got over the stoned part years ago... (sigh)

Less, you need to go look in the mirror, and find out what kind of person is looking back out at you.  What kind of inferiority complex are you running, there?? Only somebody with that kind of complex gets off on running other people down like you do.  Please grow up, or get some counseling.  It will be better for you in the long run.

I can't believe how far you people are taking this argument.  But, it always boils down to (1) People should "earn" the right to play with you, or (2)  People who don't agree with you are losers.  And you DARE to imply that I am too self-centered?  Get a grip.  

And, less, if it's such a waste of your immense talents to shoot down jabos, might I suggest that you GET THEE HENCE UNTO THE DUELLING ARENA and not dirty yourself with lowlives like me??

[nopoop]

Well shrubert we're of the same generation, though I prolly have a couple of years on you.

I guess the question that puzzles me is what exactly are you trying to get from this game.

From reading your posts ( removing the arguements ) I see you like to blow stuff up and don't care if you live because your learning the ACM thing.

Whether it's ACM or Jabo, taking the time to "learn" it is it's own reward. Pay your dues. If you haven't learned alittle something from every sortie and attempted to apply it to your next, it all comes back to what are you trying to get from this game ?

One thing in common with all greybeards whether they are "War winners" "Jabo jockies" or "fighters" is the premise to land.

Trying to live adds tremendously to the experience. Yes we hang it out there, catch our hair on fire, but the runway is the goal. We don't always make it home granted.

To live is your choice. If you choose to live, and work on it, it really is so much more fun than "I don't care if I die "

As an experiment fly 10 sorties in a row and land them all. Do your jabo as you enjoy but land all 10. It will give you a different perspective on things.

You can Quake it here as you've learned.

Quaking it puts the greybeards panties in a bunch..

You've started a fire and don't even know why..

You should.

Remember 10 sorties and get back to me.

[rshubert]

My scores improve.  I land more often.  The whole point of my original post was to show Apache that he was being a bit of a jerk.  I got responses from lots of other people that agree with him, and some others that agree with me.  

See my post where I discuss the BORING aspect of training.  I don't want to spend two man-years learning to fly one class of plane.  That's what real military pilots do and did back in the day.  I want to have fun.  I figure I will learn along the way.  My squadmates are helping me.  As the commissioner in the Pink Panther movies said, "Every day in every way I'm getting better and better."  Of course, he turned into a homicidal maniac in a strait jacket.  I hope I don't end up like that.

Yes, I prefer to land my missions.  Don't we all?  I still make beginner mistakes, though.  Sometimes I screw myself up, sometimes I get screwed up by somebody else.  I do things I shouldn't do, and don't yet know why they are a bad idea.

An example:  Today I worked my butt off to shoot down an F4F in a spit 9.  I chased him forever, from about 5 k back.  I finally got him, after he pulled 3 ho passes on me.  Ten seconds later, my engine quit--out of gas.  DOH.  I forgot to look at the fuel guage, since the field only had 25% fuel and I'd been up a long time.  I ditched.  Perk points deducted.  Sigh.  Another beginner mistake.

How 'bout some pointers, things to do rather than what I should not do.  How do you bomb a carrier and survive every time?  How do you take out the ack on a field and never get any damage?  When you're intercepted in a jabo, how do you disengage?  The way you guys talk, it must be possible.  You certainly think less of my skills because I can't do it every time.

I think you people are taking a very narrow view of how the game can and should be played.  You take no risks, because your skill level at ACM and your desire to keep a high score is overriding any other gameplay consideration.  You let others be your bait.  You think that your way of playing is "right" and "superior".  I don't.

It seems that those on your side have decided to concentrate on my score as the point of the whole discussion.  It's not.  It's about gameplay, and how we each play the game our own way.  Don't like the way I play??  Shoot me down.  Teach me a lesson I will not soon forget.

[Shane]

nanny nanny boo boo... i can jabo better than you do...


but.... i've (d)evolved back into a hair in fire semi-furball dweeb where acm is the thing... at least for this tour and a few tours back....

and if you really feel the need to sniff my butt.... you can check around tours 20-30.

it's just a phase poepl go thru... some evolve, some are just evolutionary dead ends.

landing's over-rated anyway.

[nopoop]

Hehe



See what happens when you give up the copyright ??

[beet1e]

While I don't think of myself as a suicide dweeb, and try to land my kills, I have to tip my hat to Rshubert on this.

Many people have derided me because they think I'm whining for them to play MY way. This derision usually takes the form of pointing out that it's a GAME and I should not be like a Generalissimo trying to limit people's choices by telling them how to fly, which I don't anyway. But, but, b-b-b-but....

...When boot's on t'other foot, and instead of my game being porked by something I don't like, one of the free-for-all-fragfest-unlimited-choice-it's-my-$14.95 furballers is seeing his game ruined, he comes up with a fatuous suggestion that someone like Rshubert should "earn the right" to spoil someone else's fun, or that his powers to ruin someone else's fun should be commensurate with the amount of talent required to do it!

BS I say. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander, and the furball dweebs are going to have to live with it.

Rshubert. More power to your elbow.

[Scootter]

Spunds like sombody needs AH2 "Tour of Duty" and bad.

Really this is another "Stop your fun and do it my way" posts.

The way I see it, if you want to sit on the end of the field in an M3 for fun do it, after all your 15 bucks gives you the right to have YOUR fun not control someone elses fun.

I don't like a lot of things in this game (things that players do) but guess what, they have the right to have fun in what ever way they want to.

I am really getting sick of the anti Dweeb posts. AH needs Dweebs to continue its busness (yes it is a busness!)growth.

Why don't you invite the suicide dweebs into you sq. and teach them the meaning of life according to you,.... what don't want to do that? Then quit ya squeaking and play your game.

[lazs2]

The point remains.... any jabo... suicide or not should not be able to affect so many other players with so little skill... jabo all you want... I think it is stupid in a game that offers the interesting and diverse acm fights but.. do it till you figure it out... No, I am not trying to limit your choice to jabo... just your effect.

It appears that rather that going to some dueling arena (whatever that is) that some chantges in the destruction/resupply may take place that limit the overall effect on other players.

Here is the big secret in AH.... the country with the largest numbers wins... it doesnt matter a whit how many times you go back and forth to kill one fuel or hanger... do it all nite like the lemming you are.... in the end... your effort is meaningless... totally meaningless.... if your country has the numbers, the sheer weight of em will steamroller the win... if not... the one with the numbers will steamroller you.

some of us have figured this out and prefer to fight real people other than waste our time building battling.

Here is another AH factoid...if you aren't very good.... building battleing will keep you that way.   You have to risk ego and actually engage other players if you want to learn to fight other players.... come towards the light.
lazs

[lazs2]

scooter... no... don't want them in my squad... and, I have found that sometimes ... if something is really unbalanced and is pointed out... it gets fixed.   I am not so much trying to change their behavior as to point out bugs in the game and hopefully get a fix... for some... the bug is their game tho.

Till then... it never hurts to hold these guys up to public ridicule.   I believe that some of em even think that they are "helping" in their own pitiful way.
lazs

[Hap]

Originally posted by Apache
What do I want? For the suicide children games to not affect my ability to have fun.

that's all it takes to put the ky-bosh on your fun??

[lazs2]

Yep hap... hard to believe that one little turd floating in a pool can ruin some peoples fun eh?
lazs

[Nifty]

you guys that die to ack while dropping bombs know that if you drop them from higher up, you can pretty much not get hit by the ack, right?

also, rshubert, you shouldn't be compressing while dive bombing.  If you're having problems with that, I suggest trying the P-38 and use the dive flaps, or grab a Corsair, and throw out your landing gear before you make your dive (hog gear will act as dive brakes, and can withstand up to about 350mph, IIRC.)  I can't remember if the P-47D-30 has dive brakes, but if you trim her right, she can haul bellybutton without compressing.