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Offline WpnX

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Vox cutting out
« on: May 29, 2003, 08:52:34 AM »
I've been having problems with vox dropping while playing AH. The problem was the worst I've ever seen it last night, it seems like half our squad was losing vox every few minutes.

I was wondering if this problem was specific to Soundblaster card owners. I have a SB Audigy Gamer card and others I've talked to with this problem have SB cards.

Has anyone found a fix for this? (Alt-tab and return to game doesn't work).

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Cpig

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Athlon 1.53Ghz
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« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2003, 09:55:37 AM »
Spiffy gave me the fix in a post a couple of weeks ago...  It has all but eliminated my loss of VOX.

Go to RUN... type in DXDIAG... A Direct X diagnostic menu will appear. Go to the sound tab...Then lower the setting on your sound ACCELERATOR...

I did this and it has helped a lot...

Hope this helps

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2003, 03:18:59 PM »
What Boot said.  If you have either a Creative SB card or an On-board sound codec AC97 of any make lower the directX sound acceleration one notch left in dxdiagnostics ( Go to Run box, type dxdiag and then go to sound tab when directX diagnostics screen appears.) You "can" lower it further but one notch lower seems to fix most problems.

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« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2003, 08:56:19 PM »
Thanks Spiff and Boot but I've tried that out for the last few days and still have the same problem. I've updated all drivers and will continue to search for solutions. At this point I'm not even sure the problem is on my end.
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« Reply #4 on: June 09, 2003, 10:43:07 AM »
I am also having the dropped vox problem.  I also have tried lowering of sound acceleration to no avail.  The problem only started with the change of server, it is almost like the problem in one of the earlier versions when we found out about lowering the sound acceleration to stop the crashes to desktop when firing 8 50's in the p47.  The only way to get vox back is to shut downs the game and start it over.  There seems to be a conflict when any loud sound is generated,  I have went into setup/sound and lowered the values of explosion/damage/engine/guns and anyothers I can think of to stop the loud sounds from being generated to see if that helps.

I am running XP with directX 9.0a, however it happened with WIN 98se first so I upgraded to XP with directX8.1, still happened so I upgraded to directX9.0a, so I dont think it is related to operating system.

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« Reply #5 on: June 09, 2003, 12:24:57 PM »
I saw little effect by reducing the sound acceleration and the problem isn't limited to Soundblaster cards or ac97 imbeds.

I think it must be network or server related since it seems to happen to our squad  at the same time. Some nights it may be relatively trouble free for all of us. Other nights we all lose vox several times and on these nights it frequently happens to 3-4 of us at exactly the same time.

We have a wide array of network connections as well, dsl, cable modems, dial-ups, isdn. Some of us have to reestablish our network connection to restore vox while others simply log out of the arena and back in without even exiting Aces High (my case).

I offered to do a minutely beep over vox so we'd know it was working but the guys kept forgetting about killshooter and it was increasing our death toll too much. ;)
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« Reply #6 on: June 09, 2003, 01:10:51 PM »
Even when the server "is" slow and there is a lot of text lag, my onboard sound still works, although it can slow up the lag even further if used a lot, but doesn't disappear or cause a CTD, so its probably due to a combination of things.

It's more than likely relatd to individual setups, where the sound card interupt is sharing interupts with some other major hardware system such as the video or network card. Sound hardware can share PCI Steering without problems, but its recommended to get the sound interupt otherwise separate from any other major hardware, else this problem seems to be very common in some games. (To an extent it happened in the old Air Warrior game also, those having major vox problems usually had sound sharing an interupt with a network card or with video whether AGP or PCI)

Depending on the bios fitted, one can either assign a specific interupt to sound (ignoring PCI steering which shouldn't be a problem), or if there is not that facility in the bios, to swap PCI internal cards fitted around into different slots by trial and error, updating the ACPI system each time to re-assign interupts in the Windows OS on reboot. XP seems to be particularly bad as quite often sharing the sound with other hardware, without the choice of the user.

Some have oversome this in XP by disabling one or both of the comm ports in bios if it not in use (say they have a cable card for example), so that another  interupt/s becomes free for the available pool of interupt resources.

Just some thoughts. My sound interupt "is" separate from video, network card, etc and is only sharing with the PCI steering host.

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« Reply #7 on: June 09, 2003, 01:19:30 PM »
I guess we oughta qualify our observations. I can fly for hours without losing vox on occasion while other times it may happen once or twice every hour.

If you fly less than an hour or two a day then you may not be observing enough of the picture. Many AKs fly several hours every day.
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2003, 01:02:24 PM »
I am now wondering if there is any possibility that "Mitsu's" sound package may be part of the problem...

I have started having the dropped vox again... I can hear but cannot broadcast...  At first the lowering of sound acceleration worked just fine... then I downloaded Mitsu's newest version and I am back to the same problem as before...

This thing is EXTREMELY frustrating...:mad:

Spiff,  I am not computer savvy enough to attempt to do what you described with the bios and port stuff.  I do run XP with Direct X 8.1

I hope somebody can rig a fix for this...  I am considering having our squad go back to Roger Wilco.  arrrrrggghhhh

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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2003, 05:45:16 PM »
We thought about going back to Roger Wilco a year ago, sorry, no can do.
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« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2003, 04:16:54 PM »
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Originally posted by BOOT
I am now wondering if there is any possibility that "Mitsu's" sound package may be part of the problem...

I have started having the dropped vox again... I can hear but cannot broadcast...  At first the lowering of sound acceleration worked just fine... then I downloaded Mitsu's newest version and I am back to the same problem as before...

This thing is EXTREMELY frustrating...:mad:

Spiff,  I am not computer savvy enough to attempt to do what you described with the bios and port stuff.  I do run XP with Direct X 8.1

I hope somebody can rig a fix for this...  I am considering having our squad go back to Roger Wilco.  arrrrrggghhhh


If, as I wrote your sound is sharing an interupt with another card then this is quite possible Mitsu's sounds are probably taking up more resources than before compared to the default sounds so vox cuts out first (it may be just co-incidence ). I use his sounds also but have no problem to date.  If your lag is high then vox is the first thing to go, so it could be partially a net lag problem combining with the sharing problem.
 
You should be able to get a print out of your interupts by using the microsoft system information which should be found by selecting the accessories group in your start/programs and then system tools. Select system info and when open hardware resources and then the interupts section. See what interupts are assigned to which resource. I bet its sharing with some other major hardware which is hogging the resources. If it is, then juggling cards or interupts around manually is the only way of fixing it properly.  For normal programs and word processing etc it won't be a problem but games are resource hogs, and can show up any weakness in your hardware configuration, even though your OS has assigned these automatically by plug and pray.

As I mentioned, in old Air Warrior, sound conflicts/sound configuration were the most common cause of CTDs and vox problems. AH is improved in this respect over AW but the problem still occurs, if the automatic configuration by the OS assigns too much sharing to one PCI interupt.

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« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2003, 12:26:04 PM »
AKIRON:  see my reply above.  I have had no problems after I downloaded DirectX 9.0a.  Before I would have had at least 4 incidents of loss of vox in the past two nights but have had none since I took these steps.  Vox has been solid for the past two nights and I was on for about 10 hours in the past two nights.

Hope this helps

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« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2003, 01:23:41 PM »
aac, I'm running Windows XP and dx9, whatever the latestest version is. I never lose sound, only vox. The problem is common to a multitude of cpus, mbs, sound cards, and type of network connections. Comes and goes as I mentioned before.
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