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Offline JB73

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« on: May 30, 2003, 01:16:16 PM »
what was fuel measured as in WWII?

if it was lbs (like when i hear about a plane taking off with XXX lbs. of fuel) why not make a field only hold so much lbs.

like lets say (and i know my #'s will be WAY off...) field XX has 1000lbs of fuel available. each fuel depot killed takes it down by 100lbs

when a field gets to like 200lbs of fuel a C.205 maybe (with it's little tanks) could still take off with 100% where a p51 might only have 50% avail. all based on the original size of the planes fuel tank.

this could work with lbs or gallons or liters or whatever.

in this scenario they building battlers would have to hit 8 fuel deopts or more to have an effect on many of the planes.

oh well my 2¢
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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2003, 03:47:47 PM »
Ya know....this aint a bad idea.

Right now when fuel is down to 50% people tend to take up P51Ds or F4U-1s or some other such beast with fuel tanks bigger than my kitchen..........using the above method the reverse would be true, people would take up short range fighters.



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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2003, 05:38:02 PM »
thx .. i know i rambled a bit incoherant there.. was @ work and wanted to get it down quick. I'll re-type out an example:

Base A52 is a medium field with 12 fuel depots

12 fuel depots = 1200 lbs. of fuel available.

P51 carries 700 lbs of fuel

Bf 109 e4 carries 300 lbs. fuel

Lancaster carries 1200 lbs. of fuel

10 fuel depots are destroyed by the enemy.

now A52 has 200 lbs of fuel available.

P51 can take off with about 33% fuel

Bf 109 e4 can take off with about 75% fuel

lancaster can take off with about 10% fuel


for this to work the model of fuel choices in the hangar would need to be revised. at this medium field you would need 12 options of 100 lbs. of fuel each = 1200 lbs fuel
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each plane have a 50 lbs increment drop down list for how much fuel to take.

i hope that makes sence.
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2003, 05:43:50 PM »
I think this would be an improvement.

Easier to have a slider that would stop at full or max fuel available.

What would the minimum amount of fuel availabe at any field be?

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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2003, 05:52:40 PM »
100lbs maybe... enough to get like 30% in a fighter with a small fuel tank like the c.205
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« Reply #5 on: May 30, 2003, 06:00:22 PM »
thats a great idea

it would mean that the bases that are used by a huge number become starved of fuel. if it was done right this could even deter the mass furballs in one area we see so often.The way its done would need testing and adjustment to make it work though.If it was introduced but pissed people off too much they would hate it.If however it only became a issue when 50 people are upping at the same base im sure no one could really complain.

I like the idea of being able to fill a 202 or other small sized fuel tanks to full capacity when it would only fill half your fuel tank for your '1944 dream machine' :)

plus it is more realistic in a way

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« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2003, 06:57:41 PM »
So.....like a base has a fuel storage capacity of X, each plane that goes up takes Y with it meaning fuel at the base is X - Y, every time a convoy arrives the base is resupplied with Z so fuel is X - Y + Z to a maximum of X.

I like.


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« Reply #7 on: May 31, 2003, 05:35:04 AM »
Good idea.

Also how about when all the fuel has been destroyed you can still launch a set number of aircraft dependant on the number of FHs or BHs at that base.  This would indicate any aircraft that had been fully fueled but has been sitting on a dispersal somewhere on the airfield.  As soon as these aircraft have been used then the fuel goes down to its damaged state.

OR

Additionally we have GVs that can transport airfield supplies.  How about a GV Fuel Bowser that can spawn at its own VH or from a nearby V base (can only spawn if there is a minimum of one fuel bunker left).  They can bring enough fuel to launch a set number of aircraft but these aircraft MUST be sitting on the runway awaiting fuel.  In other words if you can spawn an aircraft with 25% fuel you wait on the runway until the fuel bowser arrives and the bowser drops its load (like GV supplies) and you press the button in the top left corner to top your plane up with fuel.  Each time you press the button it tops your plane up by 25%.  Perhaps the bowser can only carry 8 or 12 loads?

At least this way you get a chance of refueling your plane from 25% to 100% at the same airfield.  If all your frontline fields, including V bases, have been porked then so be it - you can't spawn a bowser.  I think this would keep the furballers and the strat guys happy.  (In WW2 if your bulk fuel installations were destroyed you'd just have new ones contructed and in the interim have fuel bowsers from nearby bases).
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« Reply #8 on: May 31, 2003, 11:34:49 AM »
whoa there horsey :)

i didnt say that a base would run out of fuel if too many people took off there.
what whould happen when a country is getting reset and only has 2-3 bases??? 100 people all leaving the same airfield cause thats all they have and the fuel runs out? personally i dont like that twist hazed sry <>

here's another spin to keep the building battlera happy...

depending on how damaged the "fuel factory" in that sector is NO field in that sector would get to full capicity... maybe 900lbs max. enough for a full fighter but not a full bomber.
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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2003, 02:24:57 PM »
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whoa there horsey :)

i didnt say that a base would run out of fuel if too many people took off there.
what whould happen when a country is getting reset and only has 2-3 bases??? 100 people all leaving the same airfield cause thats all they have and the fuel runs out? personally i dont like that twist hazed sry <>...


Heheh, good.  I didn't like that idea either.  For a scenario maybe, but not for MA.

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« Reply #10 on: June 01, 2003, 03:41:12 PM »
I must say that I do like JB73's idea.

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« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2003, 02:18:05 PM »
Excellent Idea !!! JB

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« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2003, 02:52:47 PM »
It's good indeed.

Just not new ;)