since most of us play more then 1 game i though some of you would be intrested...

[JG3~Siggi]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
That's the beauty of a pyshics based model.

In real life, all it took was one lucky bullet to pass through the glass and hit the pilot in the head to end it.

In real life, sometimes you could spray a plane without hitting anything vital, just peppering his aircframe with drag inducing holes.

It doesn't have the same appeal when planes take X amount of hits to kill, and always take X amount of hits to kill. every. single. time.

Pilot kill, SOMETIMES, not EVERYTIME.

If you want to see a physics model done halfway properly try Il2 or FB. That's the work of professional coders, unlike the third-rate hacks at CRS.

[OIO]

zeroace, their flight models are so damn accurate that their planes fly faster when inverted, take off like a helicopter (110 film was hilarious) and their modelling of the .303 / 7.9mm /20mm cannon ballistics is laughable.

I will say something for WW2OL though, as it is NOW its got an impressive netcode, ive yet to see an online game that can have so many morons online at one time and not create lag (a-la everquest where 400 people in one zone across the world from where you're at would slow you down to horrido speeds).

Aside from that, the game itself gets a 4/10 in all areas it tries to recreate. Ground war is but a pathetic tank quake with cap-the flag use for the infantry (when they are not there to pad the tank's kill stats); air war is no different than MSCFS1 on easy (arcade FM with arcade weapons), naval war.. what navy?

graphics are not that impressive, but its ok considering its an MMPOG (heck look at AH, its the quality not the graphics.. too bad WW2OL has neither).

WW2OL community is great for the most part... great to make movies and parodies and I must admit, I love their sigs. I cant make out their l33tsp33k crapola that pollutes 95% of their threads though.

[SlapShot]

VERY BAD TASTE veruca !!!!

It would be in GOOD TASTE to remove that pic and make your point in some other manner that is not so OFFENSIVE.

[Eagler]

see what happens when the schools close for summer break?

these ww2ol cheerleaders are another argument for year round schooling...

ps  - tried ww2ol - it stunk as a flight sim

[Airhead]

Originally posted by TW9
Is this true?

Uh...Yeah, TW9, just tell him Ripsnort told you to call him.

[ZeroAce]

Originally posted by straffo
Plus as a frenchman I canno't support the idea to fly the over France without the most important plane of this period : the MS406 (I'm speaking only of the fighter part of the air force)

The MS406 won't be designed for a while because it's simply not any better than what the French already have (the H-75, Dewontine 520, and H-81).

Unforunately CRS is not yet at the stage in development where they can build every variant and every aircraft just because it participated.

They have been managing their resources to focus on the equipment that will be bring something unique or useful to the table.

Wrong ,just because a joystick will never behave like a real stick.

The nuances you can feel depend of the size of the discrete value of your lookup table (it's function of the availlable memory).

I'm not talking about joystick feel.

Nuance in the flight model are the little things about a planes performance that you just can't get from a table...

In a table based FM like CSFM2, they had to input things like the corsairs spin characteristics based on pure anecdotal evidence.

With a physics based FM, those spin characteristics would happen on their own, and there would be no guessing involved or room for error if your psychics were correct.

[Motoer]

i'll tell you the one major thing wwIIol has over every other game,the best damn community of players and devs around. [/B][/QUOTE]
 

ROTFLOL:rolleyes:

Now THAT WAS TOO FUNNY

[Spenz]

Well I just had to come here to set straight some misconceptions about the flaming 110 helicopter that is being blown wholey out of proportion.

I discovered this bug during the 1.6 open beta test.  Yep thats right a BETA test.  You see it is encouraged to find hiccups and bugs during the testing process in order to fix them, because no matter how good something is, if it is man-made there are flaws.

Well anyway I thought the bug was hilarious, and so did Bushman (the one who made the movie), so we decided to film it before I reported it in the testing forums.

Well the bug was fixed and there is no such thing as the helo 110 anymore because the dev team fixed it.

I also tend to find 'leet-speak' discrediting to a reply and the person who replied it, but that is just me.  Posting stuff like "Killers a studmuffin for posting **** when he really has no idea about what he is talking about." doesnt speak highly about ones community, especially when you are saying that a developer has no idea what he is talking about when it is his game.   I love WB, WW2OL, and AH, but a disrespectful community is not good publicity for any game.  Though it may seem like Ring is trying to sell WW2OL like an Avon lady, he is actually just requesting people to come in and join our community for 7 days.  It is free and there are no stipulations, so why are people hostile about it?

Are you afraid of liking it, or are you so proud of AH that you are unwilling to think that there is anything else to try?  Both of these are just fine.  Respectful opinions, but hostility towards the other side is a denial of opinions of others just to reinforce your own.

Well that is all I have to say.  Have a good one.

[Aub]

We're getting pwned guys! Run!

I don't wanna get pwned again.

[muckmaw]

Originally posted by OIO
I cant make out their l33tsp33k crapola that pollutes 95% of their threads though.

Little help here...

I need a translation...

And to the guy with the Special Olympics  poster, very poor form.

You are certainly not making the case for a mature cimmunity over at WWIIOL.

[Furious]

Originally posted by veruca
ah... 'studmuffin' spoken like a true 12 year

I hope you are refering to me.  Please, please be referring to me.

I'd be more than willing to call killer a studmuffin on his own BBS.  

But alas, the oh-so-brave one has deigned those not stupid enough to actually pay for his product are to be forever mute on his BBS.




BTW.  If ww2ol were doing well, do you think the developers would be asking you to shill out the game on competitors boards?

[SlapShot]

You just don't get it veruca ... do you ?

I am a 2nd degree black belt in the Korean art of Tang Soo Do and I teach Karate to a class of mentally challenged kids.

I have seen more character and determination in these kids than I have seen in most non-mentally challenged kids that I also teach. I abhor the use of their image or their plight (as anybody should) to make a derogatory reference or point.

Show some class and get rid of it.

[JG3~Siggi]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
The MS406 won't be designed for a while because it's simply not any better than what the French already have (the H-75, Dewontine 520, and H-81).

Unforunately CRS is not yet at the stage in development where they can build every variant and every aircraft just because it participated.

They have been managing their resources to focus on the equipment that will be bring something unique or useful to the table.



I'm not talking about joystick feel.

Nuance in the flight model are the little things about a planes performance that you just can't get from a table...

In a table based FM like CSFM2, they had to input things like the corsairs spin characteristics based on pure anecdotal evidence.

With a physics based FM, those spin characteristics would happen on their own, and there would be no guessing involved or room for error if your psychics were correct.

Unfortunately nothing short of a Cray can handle a full physics model at this time. Oleg Maddox had to drop many modules from his Il2 physics model because no home CPU could come even close to coping with the data. FB had a few more included, but still far short of the full complement.

So please stop talking about WWIIOL's model like it's the full enchilada, coz it ain't. It can't be, period.

[JG3~Siggi]

Originally posted by SlapShot
You just don't get it veruca ... do you ?

I am a 2nd degree black belt in the Korean art of Tang Soo Do and I teach Karate to a class of mentally challenged kids.

I have seen more character and determination in these kids than I have seen in most non-mentally challenged kids that I also teach. I abhor the use of their image or their plight (as anybody should) to make a derogatory reference or point.

Show some class and get rid of it.

I saw that image on another site a few months back and ripped ass. It's use is despicable, mean and cowardly and only indicates that it's poster needs to be introduced to reality. Hard.

[JG3~Siggi]

Originally posted by ZeroAce
The damage model needs no explanation at this point.

The flight model runs off pure physics, not speed tables, at a much more detailed level than even the regular IL-2, which is one of the reasons it taxes your CPU so heavily.

What utter, utter, utter BULL****!!!

To even THINK you can compare WWIIOL's FM with Il2's sends any shred of credibility you still had straight down the sewer. Comparing WWIIOL's air component to Il2's in ANY regard is like comparing **** to sugar.

Either your ignorance is monumental or you are a shameless liar. Go away and don't come back until you have removed your head from your dribbling sphincter. Please.