Originally posted by Airhead
Bottom line tho it's a small FREE (bout twenty dollars cheaper than WW2OL's "free" trial) download (bout 32 Mgs. or so) and no credit card information is required
Not this again?

Again, WWIIOL's free trial is free, it does not cost 19.99. Ah has a 365 day a year free 2 week trial. WWIIOL has occasional 1 week
FREE trial. They charge for the game though if you decide to subscribe and give you another month free for doing so after purchasing the game for $19.99. It's the same deal the guys who buy the boxed retail game get without having to go out and buy it. It has to do with the fact that there are still copies of the game out there that cost $19.99. You can find them on EBGames.com for one. They can't give the download guys a better deal than the boxed retail guys, though I'm sure they'd like to. They would probably get sued by the retailers holding those boxed versions. That simple. When the boxed games are gone, the deal may change.
Originally posted by Airhead
It seems to me there's alot of misinformation about both games and one way to find out about a game is to play it for a little bit. If some of the WW2OL guys would check out AH and some of the AH guys would check out WW2OL then maybe we could put aside our bias and discuss the relative merits of the different sims in an objective manner, not to mention you might see a feature in one sim you like and maybe suggest it be implemented in your own sim.
Now that is the best thing I have seen posted here. You are 100% right. It's funny that the guys screaming for us to go away don't realize that all of the posts containg comparisons and debate on the games has (for some) been learning experiences. I for one have learned things about AH that I didn't know and like what I have learned.
I mean understand that I am not going to leave WWIIOL but I amy subscribe to AH. Who knows.
Also you are right about the exchange of ideas being a good thing. I play Blackhawk Down and own and have played the entire DF series. My favorite game types were Search and Destroy and TKOTH. Attack and Defend was fun in Land Warrior as was Flagball and CTF. one of the things that always attracted me to the Delta Force series was the variety of game types that other games didn't have.
CS had a few that the DF series didn't like Hostage rescue but for some reason all the games seemed to play the same to me because of the small predictable maps.
Anyway I made the suggestion to CRS that instead of playing CTF which is what the infantry basically do in WWIIOL, I suggested a shift to more of a TKOTH style of play. In TKOTH you have to hold ground for a period of time, we call it the zone in the DF series.
Anyway I did get a response that they liked the idea nad want to shift the objective to something like that. SO I can see the idea of capping flags going away and it will be infantry that have to hold the area around armor spawns to be able to capture it and spawn your own armor there.
The armor would shut down if enemy infantry can stay within that area for a short period and stay there. If they get killed and the "zone" is clear the armor spawn activates again. If they however clear the defenders out and hold it for a set period of time it becomes capped and active for them.
The idea is that it be more than 30 seconds. More like 10 minutes or something like that.
The point here is you are 100% right. An exchange of ideas with less flaming is great for everyone and is what Killer alluded to when he said the SIM community used to be less fractured and more of a tight single community way back when.
He wasn't sniping at Ah, he was sniping fanboys in all sims (WWIIOL too)that keep the Sim community from being tight like it used to be.
Maybe if we can do away with the flaming all of us in AH and WWIIOL can lead the way in umiting the Sim Community. in the process we could bring others like IL2 FHB in.
We could start off with one big AH/WWIIOL convention. At that convention we could have some computers set up lan style to play some IL2 against each other. Mixing and matching pilots and sometimes just a friendly AH vs WWIIOL match. They could also shocase the best fan movies on a big screen.
Then we could all get drunk together.
Eventually it could turn into a WWII Sim convention.
AH, WWIIOL, WB, IL2, MSCFS, MOH, etc....
Could be an awsome thing. Will never happen unless we can get past the flaming.