Author Topic: Italian planes... (Read 1840 times)

Rapace · « **on:** June 04, 2003, 09:00:55 PM »

Question ... On AH 2 thoughts to insert some other Italian plane?

ramzey · « **Reply #1 on:** June 04, 2003, 09:14:25 PM »

2 is not enough? som nations have none:D

Defeater · « **Reply #2 on:** June 05, 2003, 05:10:03 AM »

And some other nations have a dozen, so there is no reason

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #3 on:** June 05, 2003, 06:29:11 AM »

MC.202 is missing its two underwing hardpoints which could carry two 100 liters drop tanks or two 160kg bombs (2x100kg or 2x50kg)... then italy got at least one jabo

LUPO · « **Reply #4 on:** June 05, 2003, 07:54:42 AM »

Italians REALLY need a bomber or a torpedo-bomber.
I hope both for AHII and MA classic.
The answer is: SM79!!!

It looks good... it has good punch...

...it was one of the most successful planes of the Regia Aeronautica.
(In the pics a couple of beautiful SM79 during the spain civil war, 1939)

And of course, classy CR32!!! Yeah!

Rapace · « **Reply #5 on:** June 05, 2003, 02:57:24 PM »

And true that are two ... But Italy was doing part of the Rome-Berlin-Tokyo AXIS ...
And besides 202 and 205... of aeroplanes he has produced I do not consider what on a WWIIsim is sufficiently only represented with 2 planes ...

I apologize for my very bad inglese I hope that you have understood ...

hazed- · « **Reply #6 on:** June 05, 2003, 04:09:37 PM »

cr42 Id like to see too.

The SM79 was the most successfull torpedo bomber of WW2 so it must have done something right.I'd also like to see it added.

However if we really want to have a model in AH for the most COMMON types of bomber then the B24 liberator is a huge gap in the planeset.problem is its another US model and we already have loads.

To get a new heavy bomber and try to add a usefull aircraft from a different country or less represented country then we maybe need to add the italian heavy bomber Piaggio P.108 B or the Russian Petlyakov Pe-8(4 engined) or IIyushin II-4 (2 engined @5,200 built)

Then again id still love to see a He-177 in AH

just cant please everyone !

Rutilant · « **Reply #7 on:** June 05, 2003, 05:27:12 PM »

HOw much ord could the SM79 carry? Tonnage? Loadouts?

Details man, Details!

LUPO · « **Reply #8 on:** June 05, 2003, 06:11:33 PM »

S.I.A.I. SM 79/III Sparviero

Wingspan 21,20 m.
Length 16,80 m.
Wing area 61,70 m.

Weight
(empty) 7.700 kg
(loaded) 11.400 kg

Bomb load 1.250 kg
Torp load 960 kg

Machine guns
4 x 12,7 mm

Cannons
1 x 20 mm Safat

Crew 5

Engine type
3 x Alfa Romeo 128 RC. 18 (860 cv)

Assignement
R.A. 98° gruppo
A.N.R. Gruppo autonomo AS (aerosiluranti)

Delivered quantity
1.460 (model I, II and III included)

First Flown
Oct 1934

-------------------
Performance
-------------------
Speed at Height
475 km/h
[267 at 13,120 (mph/feet)]

Service ceiling
8.500 m.
[21,320 (feet)]

Range
2500 km.
[1180 (miles)]

Climb 19,45 (min to height in fet)

Rutilant · « **Reply #9 on:** June 05, 2003, 06:17:06 PM »

OOoooo.... Nice, would prolly be disused in the MA, as are Bostons..

Would be fun a heck to use tho in a scenario.

Rapace · « **Reply #10 on:** June 05, 2003, 06:37:10 PM »

Piaggio P108

Info :Link

Ghosth · « **Reply #11 on:** June 06, 2003, 05:48:43 AM »

By all means, looks nice

Variety is the spice of life!

LUPO · « **Reply #12 on:** June 06, 2003, 06:31:09 AM »

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Would be fun a heck to use tho in a scenario.

Agree, Rutilant!

cajun · « **Reply #13 on:** June 06, 2003, 10:28:44 AM »

I have returned to post in this thread and once again haunt you all with biplane pics !

Heheh well I would like to see CR.42 and Gladiator, probably more than any other plane, but I think you all know that already

bigjava · « **Reply #14 on:** June 06, 2003, 01:13:19 PM »

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Defeater says to ramzey:
"And some other nations have a dozen, so there is no reason"

I agree 1000%

WE (italians) need at least one bomber and one jabo!

BOMBER
i like very much the sm79 cool and goodlooking but for the bomber's comparison plz look at this post:

Best New Italian Bomber

also that rapace suggest the 4 enginned piaggio-bomber but the problem is that the piaggio p108 never get into serius battle as the sm79 or the Cantz 1007.infact the sm79 and the Cantz was used all time long since spanish war to the end of wwII dropping tons of bombs in all the mediterraneo sea.

JABO
plz Reggiane 2000 2002 or the better 2005!!!

at least as suggest Lupo cr32 or better cr42 who can carry 2 bombs of 100 kg

...and what about fiat g-50 & fiat g-55 with 3X20mm guns it was used also with finnish's flag!

i'm sorry for this post i know this is not the correct sections where speak about what we wanna fligth in AH2 but when people speaks about italian plane i cant stay in silence!!