For the first tim I log out disgusted

[Hangtime]

Nath-BDP.. You da HO Master?

..my sista's HO and her pimp looks nuthin like you...

 

Hang

[cokerr]

I'll take an HO when ever the opportunity presents itself. Ya dont like it pay my $30.00 bucks a month and I will fly like you like  
coker

[Wardog]

Gatt

I fly p51 90% of the time, and 98% of the 205s i come across go for the HO!!

So i would drop it right now..

I gladly HO anyone who wants to HO me..

Dog out....

[Fariz]

HO is a good thing if used right. Sometime it is an only opportunity. I won several 1vs4 level fights only due to the proper use of HO and some luck. Till last few days I had about 90% win ratio in a HO. You just need to feel the game and other planes e, if he is unstable you have a very good chance for a HO.

Still if you do not like them or fly not a cannon bird or whatever -- avoid them.

I see no point to complain, HO is a mutial choise, those who try HO in a level merge are usually an easy meat.

Fariz
XII Legion.

[gatt]

Wardog, you probably came across guys of 1^Gruppo Caccia and/or some other dweeb. Our squad never goes HO, its one of our ROE.

Daff, I agree with you 100% (maybe its the first time  ).

Fariz, Cokerr ... everyone is free to choose his preferred tecnique. Looks like most of AH people choose HO's (I mean firing during HO's) during the merge, even if the other guy nose down to zoom below. Thats what make the difference between a good pilot and an HOer.

[busc]

Dear gatt,
         
I VE TO CHALLENGE U TO DUEL, if u dont accept, well its confirmed tht u are just a bla-bla dweeb.

U said we are HO dweebs, obviously thats not true, many of our veteran pilots dont need any HO stuff to kill theyr opponents and generally, considering our historical-minded approach to this game, we avoid HOs,  as they wer actually very rarely used in combat during ww2,furthermore we cant use too much HO because we usually fly mc205.
Theres only one last possibility, one time i shot down one of u guyz (ill say no names) wich cried loudly on ch1 tht i killed him on HO, the truth was different...He engaged with alt 6, misjudged my E state after i started my usual gentle split and i managed to zoom in his dive, then i had a quick (and,honestly lucky, considering my aim) snapshot on  first scissors cut after zoom merge.
I got him with an almst two thirds angle and had his wing in half plain view when shooted---> SO PROLLY, SPEAKIN IN FITER-SIM SLANG-----> WERE NOT HO DWEEBS,BUT U ARE SORRY LOSERS.  
            cheers, Busc

[gatt]

Busc,

dont write in CAPS, I can hear you. In my post there was nothing offensive. If you took offence, I apologize. Anyway, from what you have written I understand there is something personal when we fight each other. Not for me. So calm down.

Yes our fighting styles are different indeed, and some of us dont like each other, but everyone here is free to fly and fight the way he prefers.

[Gubba]

I'm very new to this. I am not a pilot. Since I have 2 weeks free I fly around and see how things work. Never knew HO was a bad thing. Didn't know until this morning what "E" was. At the end of my 2 weeks I will probably still not know how to use it. What I'm getting at is that IMHO, unless you are a pilot, or have a LOT of experience with flight sims, you will be like me and try whatever works before you flip over onto the ground *poof dead* with no one else around. I do that alot. I'm told it's torque (not Torque, I never see him, I just vaporize when I'm near him...kidding....been reading the posts you know...) I only have 2 weeks, and the learning curve is high, I do not wish to waste time in 'training' and of the little time I have at night I like the MA, not offline to practice. Maybe at the end of 2 weeks I will practice, because I cannot play online free anymore.

If you're going to leave the game open to any and all comers (like me, no experience)in an attempt to drum up a good solid customer base, you're going to have to expect these manoevers from us newbies. End of story. Perhaps change our ICON so it shows were dangerous even to our own side...then you'll keep safe...LOL

...nothing funnier than attacking an ack in my 109 only to follow my egg right into the ground...this doesn't happen very often anymore, but that's the manoever you'll see from newbies on 2 week trial...what's it matter, there's really no point to the game other than forcing reset...and I'm not trying to be a salamander or anything, but I just see people whining about newbies and the HO, and that they should go "train"...perhaps there should be a short disclaimer before downloading the game that "...unless you know what you're doing or enjoy being criticized by people because you fly terrible..."

[JEK]

Aooooooo that what you say!!! propio you speak not to make HO if you want place filmato where propio you attack to me in HO and a wing detaches me If pits in you I would count until 10,000,000 of times before speaking However HO uses itself when it serves is I I do not have fear to face HO to time I win to times I lose, if the thing does not appeal to to you is to 30kft and nobody of disturbs in AH or uses of saidwindwr to search the heat or the bombba atomic you make po. Pear tree leaves strae the 1°gr of what ago it does not have to interest to you and if you want to provoke why you do not have null to make we are all to aspettarti VATITC here I DRAGO
Version ITALIAN
Aooooooo che cosa dici!!!
propio tu parli di non fare HO se vuoi ti posto un filmato dove propio tu mi attacchi in HO e mi stacchi un ala
Se fossi in te conterei fino a 10.000.000 di volte prima di parlare
Comunque HO si usa quando serve c'è io non ho paura ad affrontare HO a volta vinco a volte perdo,se la cosa non ti piace stai a 30kft e nessuno di disturba in AH oppure usa dei saidwindwr a ricerca calore o la bombba atomica fai un po tu.
Pero lascia strae il 1°gr di quello che fa non ti deve interessare e se vuoi provocare perchè non hai nulla da fare siamo qui tutti ad aspettarti
VATITC
DRAGO

[-lazs-]

daff.. All else being equal... The less acm wiggle room you have and the higher the leathiality you have the more blatant HO's you will have.  What is silly about that?   Certainly, the more potent gunned planes will be the biggest offenders but I stand by what i said... It is much more tempting to HO when lingering or losing any amount of E will get you killed.  Also, the frustrated newbie will be more likely to resort to HO's if the leathiality is generally higher..  Now, what about that don't you agree with?
lazs

[gatt]

Drago,
I'm in doubt as to which school you should go. No, I'm sure you should go to both: first italian, then english. Your writing is poor as your flying.
If its not enuff e-mail me, as we are now off-topic here. I make apologies to all non italian readers.

<EDIT>
ah, while my last posts were in no way offensive for the 1^Gruppo, this one is offensive.

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[TinkyWinky]

Italians are historically passionate, please give each other a hug and make up!

Tinky Winky loves you both!

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EH-OHHHHH! BIG HUG!
 
Tinky Winky has something in his bag for you!

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[Nash]

I disagree completely with you TinkyWinkthing... this is a riot  

[Lampo]

Gatt,
next time you'll talk about 1st gruppo caccia asso di bastoni, wash your mouth before.
We do not fly in "a safe way" (your words, not mine) and accept every kind of dogfight, HO included if necessary.
.squelch gatt

Lampo

 

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Primo Gruppo Caccia
-=Asso Di Bastoni=-

[MANDOBLE]

Drago, much more clear the italian version  


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