A thought about controlling suicide field porkers

[AKcurly]

When one side is low in numbers, nothing is more aggravating to watch a La7 dive from 10k to kill a fuel structure.  You know what's going to happen -- he's going to kill the fuel and he's also going to pancake.

When your side is low in numbers, it's difficult to keep your fields defended, not to mention protecting the field's resources.

Along the same line of thinking, nothing is worse than losing a field near HQ -- you know there's going to be a steady stream of low altitude buffs and 110s and eventually, they will kill HQ.

Why not do this?  Place three manable 5 inch guns at small fields; four manable 5 inch guns at medium fields and 7 manable 5 inch guns at large fields.  At HQ, place ten manable 5 inch guns.

This does several things.  1) It gives a reason to fly buffs at high altitude near enemy airfields; 2) It gives airfields and HQ increased protection; and most importantly 3) you can defend your field against suicide dweebs.

A deflection shot on a fast moving 2.5k con isn't a "gimme."  If they come straight at you, yes, it's an easy shot.  A slow moving target at 2.5k is dead meat.

curly

[Ack-Ack]

Originally posted by AKcurly




Why not do this?  Place three manable 5 inch guns at small fields; four manable 5 inch guns at medium fields and 7 manable 5 inch guns at large fields.  At HQ, place ten manable 5 inch guns.


curly

I liked how in WB they used to have different AA guns, from .50 cal machine gun nests to the larger flak battery guns.


Ack-Ack

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by TW9
I'd fly pony in to pork a field not intent on dying.. My wing would get blown off and i'd still hit  my target then be called a suicide dweeb for my effort...

And you would be, so don't do it.  In fact, if all of the 5" guns are manned, I don't think you could do it!

Now, what you could do is this:  Fly along at 12k, slow down, roll over on your back and release 3 or 4 rockets at 7-8k.  You would have a chance of surviving and with practice, you could learn to hit the guns from 7-8k.

curly

[cpxxx]

Now, what you could do is this:  Fly along at 12k, slow down, roll over on your back and release 3 or 4 rockets at 7-8k.  You would have a chance of surviving and with practice, you could learn to hit the guns from 7-8k.

curly [/B]

And that would be more realistic. I read recently about a real P38 pilot who said they released from a dive at 15k, any lower and they got into heavy strife from the flak.

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by cpxxx
And that would be more realistic. I read recently about a real P38 pilot who said they released from a dive at 15k, any lower and they got into heavy strife from the flak.

Yes, and not only that, buffs become meaningful again.  It takes 2.5k dropped with some precision to kill a FH -- it's very difficult to do that with any degree of regularity.

However, I can overfly a field and pickle off 8 250s with a delay of 0.2 and I will hit the 5 incher.

I'm assuming the buff is flying at an altitude that makes hitting it with the 5 inch guns problematic.

curly

[Saintaw]

I have never been able to hit anything (apart from the ocasional luck) with those field guns. I have NO IDEA what kind of lead is needed with those 37mm's...

If someone would be kind enough to post a film with that... I'd apreciate it.

[AKcurly]

Originally posted by Saintaw
I have never been able to hit anything (apart from the ocasional luck) with those field guns. I have NO IDEA what kind of lead is needed with those 37mm's...

If someone would be kind enough to post a film with that... I'd apreciate it.

Saw, you do understand I'm not talking about 37mm guns, right?  I'm talking about the 5 inch guns with proximity fuses.

curly

[SunKing]

or maybe...

The amount of automatic ack at a field is determinded by how many players are logged on for that particular country. Maybe the smaller country gets extra auto ack near their fuel. ? Just a thought.

[Saintaw]

Sorry Curly, I shouldn't post with that 1st coffee mug in my hand

[Tilt]

There is a mannable 88 mm Flak in the object list but it is porked and currently unusable in any terrain (causes the terrain to crash)

I would love for this to be fixed and added to many terrains..........


I would also like to get rid of the proxy fuzed 5" ordinance and cause it to be ranged by a timer adjusted by the same controls that adjust revs on AC.............

I would also like the SB's to be able to take AA as an alternative to the HE.

[Mini D]

Have a chat with the "The ack killed me so I'm quitting AH" crowd.  I think of them every time I see a plane make 4 passes on a base with all of the ack up.  Nevermind that there should be absolutely zero chance for a plane hanging around an enemy field with its ack up for more than 5 seconds...

Stupid complaints beget dweeby MA behavior.

Upping the AH ack is a solution, but then we'll have to listen to the "he ran for the ack" whines as if that is the ultimate in dweebery vs "he ignored all base ack and cons around the base as he dove in at 425 twice just to kill 2 fuel tanks... without a scratch... cause the ack has been completely dumbed down".

MiniD

[Batz]

The map designers can just add more fuel tanks per field and spread them out so that 1 suicide jabo cant get more the one.


make knocking fuel down to below 50% harder. If it takes near the same effort to knock out fuel as to capture it then it may get rid of the pork and auger.

[Grimm]

has anyone suggested having Bombs arm at a higher Alts.

Lets say if you release from 0-2,000 yrds AGL your bombs dont arm and dont explode.   So you have to drop them from higher up.

It wouldnt help the rocket attacks thou...

[zipity]

Not that I'm in favor of the suicide dweebery but is the point to make field capture completely out of the question?  I'm sure a number of the furballers would be in favor but this seems like a drastic change to prevent a few newbies from taking out a fuel tank.

I have little doubt that real WWII pilots used to release their bombs from 10-15k above the fields.  The difference however is there was no concept of "take out half the fuel tanks and the enemy can only fuel to 50%" or "take out the FH and they won't be able to take off".  Many of those planes would drop their bombs in an attempt to hit the runway.  Pocket the runway and the enemy couldn't take off, the rest was just gravy.  So you want realism put in the guns but let me blow up the runway to keep cons from tearing me apart on the ride home.

[Busher]

Curly I like your idea;)