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Offline Midnight

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« Reply #45 on: June 24, 2003, 02:56:07 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
.. you won't even get 7 kills per hour if you come in at 20k and try to maintain that alt... I would venture to say that the way you learned ACM wasn't hiding up there but by mixing it up... that is the point...


You can get 7 kills per hour at 20K
http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/105score/105score.pl?gameid=Midnight&tour=svsl2.hitechcreations.com:0:Tour41

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« Reply #46 on: June 24, 2003, 03:14:08 PM »
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Well were surely scared of pilots like yourself, who would want to get killed by almighty Rude? Id come down, but then id have 5 of your buds breathing down my neck.. Bish are known for that sorta thing..

 

And god knows how you know my stones are small...Been peakin thru my window?


Well, I was really just using a metaphor...I didn't know that they were tiny in RL....sorry about that, I won't mention it again.

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« Reply #47 on: June 24, 2003, 04:05:38 PM »
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Well, I was really just using a metaphor...I didn't know that they were tiny in RL....sorry about that, I won't mention it again.


Guess you didnt see the sarcasm in my statement as i didnt see the metaphor in yours.

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« Reply #48 on: June 24, 2003, 04:09:08 PM »
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(bong water sound) Huh?



This explains everything....:)

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« Reply #49 on: June 24, 2003, 05:00:56 PM »
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Hey HT!!! Raise the price:)


I agree!!! Keeps the riff raff out :D.
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« Reply #50 on: June 24, 2003, 05:05:13 PM »
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Originally posted by lazs2
How does someone afford to be bored?   the game is cheaper so I can afford to be bored?
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Lazs...

Here's a clue for yah...there are people that don't play the game the way you do...and they aren't bored!!! Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean no one else can like it :).
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« Reply #51 on: June 24, 2003, 05:50:56 PM »
People shouldn't confuse actual knife-fighting with horizontal cherry picking. Coming late to a fight and using long lazy extends and one can (yawn) cherry pick away without ever popping up over 5k or so. So who cares bout the guys who go to 20k to do it -- least they're honest about their intentions ;)
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« Reply #52 on: June 24, 2003, 06:00:59 PM »
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i'll fly as high as i want, you want to kill me? Come get me.. Now quit your whining




Why bother?  You'll just run at the first sign of danger.


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« Reply #53 on: June 24, 2003, 06:05:29 PM »
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Rude i'll tell you why...

I think most in aces high flew aw which in aw 25k or 30 was the norm.  specially of the AZ :p




All the years I played AW (started in '93, quit when it went belly up) the majority of the fights were 10k or lower.  There were only a few dedicated alt monkeys that always flew 25k-35k and yes, they were mostly Azlanders.



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« Reply #54 on: June 24, 2003, 06:23:55 PM »
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Originally posted by Sharky

Well I will always try to gain every advantage that I can.  I really like to return to base as much as I can.  Now do I always have the advantage when I fight?  No.  Sometimes your forced into a fight with a disadvantage.  Will I try and disengage from that fight if I can?  You bet!  If I'm caught slow in my Mustang by a Spit, it would be suicied to try and fight on his terms unless he's the worse pilot to ever fly this sim.  I'll try to force a nose to nose merge then unload and haul ass.


I don't think that the issue relates to guys who like to have some altitude in their back pocket before engaging.

What Rude was describing is the guy who takes off from a field a full sector away from a fight, climbs up to the Sputnik's orbit and heads to the area of battle. Once he arrives and discovers that the this field is essentially capped, he stays up there until fuel sends him packing.

Now, I understand that most of these guys are n00bs and are very nervous of getting ganged. Yet, the question begs; why come at all?

When I first started playing this game I took on anyone, anywhere in anything. I figured that this would shorten the learning curve. It did. Gradually I became confident that I could hold my own under most circumstances and began exploring different tactics.

Ultimately, the Stratodweebs will need to get engaged to develop their skills and SA. Because, if they don't they will eventually lose interest or become disheartened.

This is not to say that they must join every furball they see. However, no one gets better at this game without being shot down, sometime often. Furthermore, most experienced players don't mind a n00b tagging along. As Yogi said, "you can observe a lot by just watching." Heck, n00bs can make excellent bait!!! I encourage every new player to wing up with an experienced player or squad. At least here they will have someone to learn from and teach them. Up alone at 35k, there's little to be learned other than boredom.

We have guys in my squad who are the polar opposite of the Stratodweebs. These guys are fearless, not afraid to take on any horde. Sure their stats aren't very good, but they will get better because you learn quickly under those circumstances.

In short, if they really want to maximize their enjoyment and add to their skills and SA, they have to come down from the Van Allen Belt and get engaged.

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Re: Why So High?
« Reply #55 on: June 24, 2003, 07:13:22 PM »
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I can understand wanting an advantage in a fight, but combined with superior numbers, why not just engage?

Seeing more and more of this style of gameplay...do what brings ya the fun, just help me understand the motivation for not engaging a lower and slower opponent please.

Thank you


Because inevitabley, that lower and slower con has a tag-along or 4, usually in the form of Spits/La-7s that I for one would rather not give a kill.  I pick my fights... simple as that.
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« Reply #56 on: June 24, 2003, 07:36:00 PM »
Not gonna understand you, Tumor ... it's not in dufe-pidgin. ;)

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« Reply #57 on: June 25, 2003, 08:43:26 AM »
"Lazs...

Here's a clue for yah...there are people that don't play the game the way you do...and they aren't bored!!! Just because it's not your cup of tea doesn't mean no one else can like it .


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Re: Re: Why So High?
« Reply #58 on: June 25, 2003, 09:00:31 AM »
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Because inevitabley, that lower and slower con has a tag-along or 4, usually in the form of Spits/La-7s that I for one would rather not give a kill.  I pick my fights... simple as that.


More power to ya Tumor....just don't get loggin on to not fight. I engage multiples, just requires some thought....beats flyin around above the masses only to eventually get bored and die anyway.

Just unusual behavior to me...in 10 years, I've not seen people just fly around....seen lots of high guys, but they used to get after it, especially with an alt and speed advantage....I mean, what kind of risk taking is that?

BTW, I'm all in favor of folks dancin to their own music....I was just curious as to why I'm seeing what I'm seeing.

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« Reply #59 on: June 25, 2003, 09:11:05 AM »
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Guess you didnt see the sarcasm in my statement as i didnt see the metaphor in yours.


Just out of curiosity - who are you?