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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 1999, 10:45:00 AM »
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Offline Minotaur

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« Reply #16 on: November 18, 1999, 01:27:00 PM »
P-51 vs 109?

P-51 better have lots of altitude cushion, even if CO-E or better.

Keep that 109 in compression (300+) and turning, they will usually separate the 1st chance they get or more often than not get shot down.  The P-51 turns quite nicely at those speeds.

Don't show them your pretty P-51 tail feathers at low altitude, C0-E.  That has the look of a kill for the 109.  Better to turn and die fighting.

If chasing a 109 at low altitude, CO-E. The 109 can slow down quickly, let the P-51 blow by and then accelerate away.  Be ready for that move, a high Yo-Yo instead of chasing the break move for a shot.  (Nice move Weazel!)

Always dis-engage while you still can.  The Credo of Runstangers.

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« Reply #17 on: November 18, 1999, 03:05:00 PM »
--- Leonid: ---
By looking at the kill stats for the various aircraft one can easily see which planes are flown the most(from most frequent to least):
1. Spitfire IX
2. P-51D
3. Fw 190A-8
--- end ---

It's just that A-8 you get good kill counts/sortie most of the time that it ends up so high. Honestly I think I see more of N1K2s than Fw 190A-8s, when A-8 came out everyone was flying in one of course. And La-5 is starting to be more popular once again, that thing is _annoyingly_ fast ( as in I have been run down more than once by one ) at low altitude.

One stat I like to follow is my performance in Fw 190A-8 against each plane type, and accordingly I try to rise certain planes as 'dangerous' on my SA list. Fun to see which ones end up killing me the most with out me killing them a lot. The number I have killed supports leonid's top3 popular rides.

fats v N1K2: 24 - 7
fats v A-8: 34 - 6
fats v P-51: 50 - 6
fats v B-17: 10 - 5 ( fats v otto: 0 - 3 )
fats v G-10: 23 - 3
fats v La-5: 12 - 3
fats v Spit: 53 - 3

Seems like if you wanna kill A-8s, take off in George or the La-5. P-51 and Spit are bantha poodoo with lowest succes rates in killing me. If you take Fw 190A-8 v each plane type, only planes which have killed more A-8s than died to one are George and La-5.

But like we all know it's easy to mangle statistics to back up what ever one is trying to say.


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« Reply #18 on: November 21, 1999, 09:26:00 AM »
The average low experience 190 pilot always want to crank them guns at you.  Use it to your advantage.

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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 1999, 09:50:00 AM »

Your stats don't match your conclusions fats.  You have killed more spits and 51's only because there are more of them in the arena.  I'm not surprised your kill numbers match the ratio of how many fly each plane.

You are a veteran.. experten in the 190.  You graze on the dweebs, and the dweebs fly the P51 and Spit more than any other planes.. therefore your kill ratios are better for those planes.

Mine look like this:

Lephturn in P51 vs. Plane Type
14 to 2 vs P51
6 to 1 vs 109G10
18 to 3 vs Spit
5 to 0 vs Macchi
13 to 1 vs 190A8
3 to 1 vs George
2 to 0 vs Chute (hehehe)
1 to 0 vs La5

Now I haven't flown nearly as much as you have, so my numbers aren't as representative.  However, observe that the 51 and Spit top my list as well.  Not surprising.  Oh look.. the A8 ranks right up there... OWMIGAWD, it has the worst ratio!    Now you see why I love to see a lower 190?  

All these stats show is how many people or dweebs fly a given plane, and not much else.  IMHO



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