AH Fighters - Roll Rate Charts!!

[Kweassa]

This, you might find interesting.

 These charts were made by my squad mate Kingcat.

 There's a user-made AH film viewer(made by knob), which records lots of miscellaneous information such as speed, heading, rate of roll, relative 3D positions and etc. I bet some of you people might know about it.

 Thus, these roll rate charts are not "analogue".

 They were not made with a stop-watch. It was made from digitally recorded data of the game itself(all the data from AH films).

 The results?

 Some are as expected, some are as suspected.. and some are shocking.


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 The page these charts are located, is "Kingcat's Aces High", a Korean AH website.

*AH Speed Charts
(HTC official charts)

*AH Climbrate Charts
(HTC official charts)

*AH Rollrate Charts
(Analyzed with AH game data)

 The charts are easy to use - click the "ONN/OFF" buttons for the plane type chart to appear and disappear. Some of the roll rates among planes of simular types(ie. Fw190 series, P-47D series..), are in average numbers - Kingcat confirms that there were minor differences among those types with multiple trials, but the differences were relatively low, and thus, in consideration of the possibility of minor differences due to the pilot factor, the numbers were rounded out.
 
 Tested altitude was 1000ft.

[Kweassa]

Note, some interesting points:


* the AH SpitI outrolls the Bf109E-4 in all speeds, at 1000ft.

* the F4U Corsairs, outrolls all P-47s

* the Ta152H rollrate is practically the same as Spitfires.

 Perhaps the results may vary with different altitudes. Currently I'm requesting Kingcat to make a 18000ft version of this roll rate chart.

[LLv34_Snefens]

OUTSTANDING!

Great effort, two thumbs up ect.
As I always say; I'm a sucker for statistics.

[Sancho]

wtg, that was a lot of work.

[frank3]

dang! realy nice! I drink to him/her who made this!

[F4UDOA]

Interesting,

I did the same test on some of the AH Plane set recently with a digital stop watch and my test showed the rates to be somewhat different. I had the F4U and P-51 at almost a dead heat at the higher speed ranges.

Kweassa,

Why do youthink the P-47 should roll as well as an F4U? The only P-47 of the series that would come close would be the P-47N and that is not here yet.

I'm curious if you have any other charts that show a faster roll than what we have in AH?

[Red Tail 444]

I notice hog 1,C,D all have similar charts?

[214thCavalier]

Thats a useful program, however from my point of view its a pity they dont have a version labelled in english

[Replicant]

See my beloved Typhoon is the worst out the pile - even 110 and Mossie roll better!  

I found some data on the Typhoon roll rate in this link http://www.angelfire.com/games2/spinsdoe/aircraft/typhoonstats.html

Haven't a clue how to accurately check it but does this data tally with the AH roll rate?

[swoopy]

wtg nice work but thought later models of spits rolled better.

tiffie kick bellybutton i think one of the best planes to fly good guns, speed, manouvers well. better than a 190 in a fight IMO comciderng it looks like one:)

[DB603]

S!

 Gotta bump this one...

[GScholz]

This user-made film viewer, is it only for recording statistical data, or is it also an improved film exporter?

[dracon]

Where would one get this User Made Film Viewer??
Thanks,

[hazed-]

the p38s roll chart appears to be very strange. it gets faster and faster in roll? never slows again?

The 190s also appear to lose roll speed at the most severe rate of any aircraft in AH. They may well have the fastest roll overall but they appear to be hamstrung once speed approaches and exceeds 300.Id have to say this is what i suspected the AH 190 was doing and i find it hard to accept the aircraft was like this.

The 109E appears to be a terrible roller even at low speeds when in fact its often comented that it was a very maneuverable aircraft at low speeds and the stick only became 'set in concrette' at high speeds, at least this is what i recall from memory.

Im a little confused as to why the 190F8 is slower in roll too? did he test with bombs on the wings by any chance?

[Widewing]

Originally posted by hazed-
the p38s roll chart appears to be very strange. it gets faster and faster in roll? never slows again?

It's not far off of the Lockheed data. Late model P-38s had hydraulic boosted ailerons. This meant that unlike any other WWII fighter, the pilot could obtain full deflection at any speed. Therefore, as speed increased, full deflection generated greater forces. Where the P-38 (and all other aircraft with engines out on the wings) suffered was in INITIAL roll rate. Getting those engines rotating around a central axis took some time. However, once it was rolling, it rolled very fast at high speed.

Here's another chart with very similar data:


My regards,

Widewing