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Offline Arlo

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« Reply #30 on: July 01, 2003, 01:51:52 PM »
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2 weeks, asssuming they don't start Target Angola or Target Malvinas and further divide their efforts.  :)


If other (key word) groups want to start up "Target: Downtown Bumblyburg" or "Target:Middle of Nowhere" that will not take away from the groups working on whatever Target:Whatever's they are working on. Is this, for some odd reason, a hard concept to grasp? ;)
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« Reply #31 on: July 01, 2003, 01:52:52 PM »
If all the TR/TWhatever people had chipped in on TK, the project would have been completed a long time ago.

If X people work on Y projects, the projects will take longer to complete than if X people worked on 1 project.  Is this a hard concept to grasp?
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« Reply #32 on: July 01, 2003, 01:53:47 PM »
History has not been on your side, because the people working on each era never started work in Korea and then went to another of the mods, but instead started doing work for the mods when the one that interested them started up.

Korea has been promising beta for quite some time, and delivered.

Its been promising open beta for a couple months, but it has nothing to do with the work the volunteer people have or have not been doing but instead relies on the engine and server side/client side software to be acceptable before they release it.

This does not tie into being too spread out either, since one engine works for all the games.

I would go more into it, but I simply can't.
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« Reply #33 on: July 01, 2003, 01:56:22 PM »
lol :D

I will just deploy the Rapier missile system and take you down! I'll even avoid placing them on elevated areas which allowed the Argentinians to fly under their operating zone.
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« Reply #34 on: July 01, 2003, 01:56:59 PM »
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Its been promising open beta for a couple months


Actually the original open beta promise was Q1 2001.  Claiming history is on your side in this case is ludicrous.
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« Reply #35 on: July 01, 2003, 01:57:44 PM »
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If all the TR/TWhatever people had chipped in on TK, the project would have been completed a long time ago.

If X people work on Y projects, the projects will take longer to complete than if X people worked on 1 project.  Is that such a difficult concept to grasp?


If all the congressmen on capital hill sent all our tax money to Vermont then the honorable gentlemen from Vermont would be the only one's re-elected. Targetware is a tool that any group can use for their own interests. Any group. Their interests. That's your final clue. Good luck. ;)
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« Reply #36 on: July 01, 2003, 01:59:10 PM »
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lol :D

I will just deploy the Rapier missile system and take you down! I'll even avoid placing them on elevated areas which allowed the Argentinians to fly under their operating zone.


Then I will just use my 1337 terrain masking skills to avoid your valley-dwelling Rapiers.  :)
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« Reply #37 on: July 01, 2003, 02:00:06 PM »
They dont have to leave Korea to go to another project - they reduce resources available to it by staring another one which draws more people to it and makes it impossible for them to contribute to the others due to finite time.

Like funked said Korea would have been done a long time ago if the people focused and worked togerther instead of diving the limited skilled resources thrre or four times over.

Instead of one finished sim we have four incomplite pipedreams.  

And what you have some sort of NDA if you in the beta - what do they have to hide if its all a wholseme community volunteer job...
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« Reply #38 on: July 01, 2003, 02:00:34 PM »
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If all the congressmen on capital hill sent all our tax money to Vermont then the honorable gentlemen from Vermont would be the only one's re-elected. Targetware is a tool that any group can use for their own interests. Any group. Their interests. That's your final clue. Good luck. ;)


Tee hee great wit but you have not refuted my assertion.
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« Reply #39 on: July 01, 2003, 02:05:00 PM »
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And what you have some sort of NDA if you in the beta - what do they have to hide if its all a wholseme community volunteer job...


NDA is de rigeur for this kind of thing.  Corporate espionage is real.  Disgruntled beta testers leaking unfinished beta products are real.  There is nothing sinister or un-wholesome about the NDA.  TW have used it to protect their intellectual property, not to bully beta testers.
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« Reply #40 on: July 01, 2003, 02:07:56 PM »
I know funked.. But then again I get the impression some are trying to pass off TW as some sort of agendaless charity.. :)
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« Reply #41 on: July 01, 2003, 02:08:25 PM »
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Tee hee great wit but you have not refuted my assertion.


I'm sure I'll get over it. I did my best. I can explain it to ya but I can't understand it for ya. :D

btw .... offer your services to the Target:Korea team. They'll probably gladly steer you toward the tools needed and even help you with whatever skills you wish to focus your efforts on. And then you'll be less restive, to boot. ;)
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« Reply #42 on: July 01, 2003, 02:10:24 PM »
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I know funked.. But then again I get the impression some are trying to pass off TW as some sort of agendaless charity.. :)


The only agenda is (was?) to make a mission-based high-fidelity combat flight sim which didn't require a brick-and-mortar operation with a central host, and allowed users to do a lot of the dog-work.  AFAIK nobody is making money off this, and I can only think of one person who really ever hoped to make money off this.  :)
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« Reply #43 on: July 01, 2003, 02:15:03 PM »
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btw .... offer your services to the Target:Korea team. They'll probably gladly steer you toward the tools needed and even help you with whatever skills you wish to focus your efforts on. And then you'll be less restive, to boot. ;)


http://forums.targetware.net/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=20

PWN3D  :D

If I were to work on flight sim mods these days it would probably be for SFP1 which is a more complete and polished product with a lot of eager 3d modellers and skinners at work.  Really fertile ground for a Vietnam add-on (HINT HINT HINT).  But at this point, I'm sick of the genre, too impatient, and have too short of an attention span to really contribute anything substantial.  And I'm not restive, just calling a spade a spade.  :)
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« Reply #44 on: July 01, 2003, 02:24:52 PM »
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