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Offline pugg666

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« on: July 03, 2003, 02:42:04 PM »
A fairly easy one.


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« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2003, 02:55:55 PM »
Su-100?

Offline pugg666

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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2003, 03:37:57 PM »
yep, but wich modle :)

Offline frank3

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« Reply #3 on: July 04, 2003, 01:04:08 PM »
I have have absolutely no idea, it's a large gun tho :eek:

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2003, 04:55:08 PM »
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I have have absolutely no idea, it's a large gun tho :eek:


Nah....the 100mm SU-100's gun was small (bore-wise) compared to the Sturmtiger found here

380mm of HE loving.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2003, 05:18:02 PM »
A 1943 - Soviet SU-100 Self-Propelled Gun mounted on a T-34 Chassis.

Armament:           I - 100mm gun
Engine:                12 cyl. diesel, 500 hp Model W2
Speed:                 30 mph
Range:                186 miles; 220 with auxiliary tanks
Crew:                   4
Weight:                31 tons
Long 100mm gun developed from high velocity naval gun.

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2003, 06:36:06 PM »
yep Su-100 based on the 31 ton T-34 chassis
not the 36 ton T-34/85 chassis

the 100MM gun could penetrate 125MM of armor at 2000 metres.

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2003, 06:55:17 PM »
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yep Su-100 based on the 31 ton T-34 chassis
not the 36 ton T-34/85 chassis



What is the difference between a T-34/76 chassis and a T-34/85 chassis?

http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/plans/su100.gif
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/plans/t3485m44.gif
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/plans/t3476m43.gif

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2003, 03:17:37 AM »
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What is the difference between a T-34/76 chassis and a T-34/85 chassis?

http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/plans/su100.gif
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/plans/t3485m44.gif
http://www.onwar.com/tanks/ussr/plans/t3476m43.gif


Wider turret ring, thicker(?) front armor, strengthened 2 front rollers' suspension, new gearbox (mounted on late t34-76 model though)

mb I missed smth..

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« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2003, 05:50:51 AM »
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Nah....the 100mm SU-100's gun was small (bore-wise) compared to the Sturmtiger found here

380mm of HE loving.



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..... 38 cm mortar, planned to combat submarines, was installed instead.


crazy germans :)
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« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2003, 06:18:36 AM »
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Nah....the 100mm SU-100's gun was small (bore-wise) compared to the Sturmtiger found here
380mm of HE loving.

crazy germans :)

This ''Mortar'' was orginally anti-sub depth charge launcher...
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2003, 09:31:04 AM »
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Wider turret ring, thicker(?) front armor, strengthened 2 front rollers' suspension, new gearbox (mounted on late t34-76 model though)

mb I missed smth..


But does that add up to a 10,000 lb increase in weight?

The turret ring of a T-34(1943) looks to be the same size as the T-34/85.

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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2003, 11:34:07 AM »
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But does that add up to a 10,000 lb increase in weight?

The turret ring of a T-34(1943) looks to be the same size as the T-34/85.


T-34 m43 got new re-designed ''Hexagonal'' turret  (Max armor 70mm) + wider mantlet and armored commander cupola was also installed , turret ring diameter was 1,42m while T-34-85 got 1,6m wide...
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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2003, 11:54:21 AM »
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T-34 m43 got new re-designed ''Hexagonal'' turret  (Max armor 70mm) + wider mantlet and armored commander cupola was also installed , turret ring diameter was 1,42m while T-34-85 got 1,6m wide...


Yes and there was 3 styles of "hex" turrets.

Still, I would like to know where the extra 10,000 lbs came from.

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2003, 12:28:23 PM »
Milomorai,

i don't have the exact figures on the su-100 but i believe the weight difference in chasis was only refering to a t-34 when completed as a t-34/76 or t-34/85, not a su-100