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Offline MiloMorai

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2003, 12:44:50 PM »
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Milomorai,

i don't have the exact figures on the su-100 but i believe the weight difference in chasis was only refering to a t-34 when completed as a t-34/76 or t-34/85, not a su-100


Yes, that is what I want to know, where the extra 10,000 lb came from on the T-34/85 over the T-34/76.

"based on the 31 ton T-34 chassis
not the 36 ton T-34/85 chassis "

I can only find an increase of 220lb for a whole tank.

ref. http://www.battlefield.ru/map.html

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2003, 01:08:08 PM »
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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Yes, that is what I want to know, where the extra 10,000 lb came from on the T-34/85 over the T-34/76.

"based on the 31 ton T-34 chassis
not the 36 ton T-34/85 chassis "

I can only find an increase of 220lb for a whole tank.

ref. http://www.battlefield.ru/map.html


T-34-85s main gun weigh was 1540kg ~ 4400lb...
And F-34 cannon weight was 1155kg ~ 2547lb
« Last Edit: July 06, 2003, 02:25:10 PM by Dr Zhivago »

Offline dankes

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« Reply #17 on: July 07, 2003, 04:13:53 AM »
Excuse me but t-34/85 never weighted 36 tons.
~ 32 tons
« Last Edit: July 07, 2003, 04:26:19 AM by dankes »

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« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2003, 05:30:17 AM »
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T-34-85s main gun weigh was 1540kg ~ 4400lb...
And F-34 cannon weight was 1155kg ~ 2547lb


1540kg = 3395 lb. > a typo???

That only accounts for 850 lb. of the 10,000 lb.

dankes, it is so hard getting info on this 10,000 lb increase here. All I have ever seen is, as you say, 32 ton.

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« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2003, 05:35:29 AM »
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Nah....the 100mm SU-100's gun was small (bore-wise) compared to the Sturmtiger found here

380mm of HE loving.



Lol! now that would tear up some tigers :eek:

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« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2003, 11:39:56 AM »
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1540kg = 3395 lb. > a typo???

That only accounts for 850 lb. of the 10,000 lb.

dankes, it is so hard getting info on this 10,000 lb increase here. All I have ever seen is, as you say, 32 ton.


Correct.

Weight of early model t-34 (L-11 cannon) was 26.5 tons. It increased to ~30.5 tons in T-34/76 41 year model (F-34 cannon). (dunno how... mb armor thickened etc)

I often encounter the following sentence in different articles  about T-34 (IMHO original author is Igor Shmelev) "the weight of t-34/85 increased by 6 tons in comparison to first model". Ppl treat it incorrectly and suppose the weight of t-34/85 to be 36 tons (30+6)

Correct is 26+6 = 32.