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Offline Citabria

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« on: May 10, 2001, 06:16:00 AM »
it is subtle and mysterious and missing.

it was there in Warbirds scenarios, HA and even MA. somehow when playing that game it felt like you were pretending to be a ww2 pilot.

here it feels like we have the worlds greatest warbird flight modelling and ground air warfare yet it is missing that quality of being a ww2 sim.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2001, 06:26:00 AM »
I think there are a few reasons:
1.  We've been doing this too long and too often.
2.  Things like the in-flight AWACS datalink display and simplfied bomber gunning and bomb aiming and CV Aegis fire control really make it clear that you are not in WWII, and you are playing a game.  WWII planes on a WWIII battlefield.
3.  Historical terrains and plane matchups always help.
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Offline Pepe

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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2001, 06:28:00 AM »
I subscribe each of your points, Funked.

Cheers,

Pepe
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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2001, 06:37:00 AM »
4. Some of the real-world based terrains in WB (like the Mediterranean) actually helped. Instead of flying South of Axx, you were just off Malta (or over the Nile).

I know they were scaled, not terribly accurate and all but it made a difference I think.
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Offline GRUNHERZ

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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2001, 06:50:00 AM »
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Offline Pepe

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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2001, 06:52:00 AM »
I disagree Grunherz. What Cit's saying does not relate with presence/absence/FM/weapons of any plane in particular.

Yet I can find a hell of a funny time whenever I am online  

Cheers,

Pepe
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Offline DB603

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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2001, 07:01:00 AM »
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 I agreed we could use some historical maps too.The Italian map in one Check6 was nice,so why not add some others too like Normandy-region,France/Germany etc.Would be great to have them as even separate arenas so the furballers could stay at MA In short..more variety in maps(as it is prolly gonna be in 1.07?)
 Also another minor(not critical IMO) is that the cockpits could be tidied up and still HOPING some day getting METRIC gauges to planes that have them...Oh well.AH is pretty OK as it is,but there's always room for improvement under time...




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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2001, 07:12:00 AM »
And, you will note, it only took five posts.  
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Offline Staga

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« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2001, 07:25:00 AM »
...And only couple more for first  
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2001, 07:32:00 AM »
Kieran, exactly.
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Offline popeye

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« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2001, 07:34:00 AM »
I know everyone hated the WB RPS, but I thought it added a feeling of "history" to the game.  It gave a sense of what technical progress meant to the people fighting the war.

Agree with the points about inflight DAR and fantasy terrains making AH more "gamelike".

Also, the Perk system is a constant reminder that we are "gaming".

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[This message has been edited by popeye (edited 05-10-2001).]
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« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2001, 08:06:00 AM »
the maps, the field capture system, the idiotic perk system and everything about the bombers.  All these things are bad for immersion and for the gmeplay itself but..

You can have no icons and "historical" plane matchups in scenarios but the truth is... "feeling like your a WWII pilot" is highly overated.  i don't want to pretend I'm a WWII pilot iof it means limitintg myself to such boring and lopsided planesets.    Just like the real pilots, I just wanna shoot somethin down.
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Offline anRky

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« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2001, 09:02:00 AM »
Citabria:
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here it feels like we have the worlds greatest warbird flight modelling and ground air warfare yet it is missing that quality of being a ww2 sim.
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Yup.

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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2001, 09:02:00 AM »
Ditto Funks comment...

Do you know why SWOTL is still one of my favorites?  Because it was one of the first sims that got me totally immersed in the game itself, nothing will ever compare to that first "total immersion" that I felt.
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Offline sling322

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« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2001, 11:15:00 AM »
LOL Kieran.....I told ya.  
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