Author Topic: 2 planes that should be perked (Read 1165 times)

acepilot2 · « **on:** July 13, 2003, 04:26:46 PM »

I believe that the la7 and niki should be perked. The niki should be perked about 30. I am not 100% sure on this, but I believe the niki was not available until the last year/months of the war, like 1944 or 45. Considering how well it manuvers, it should be perked and it was not used until the end of the war. I do not think the la7 should not be perked as much, probably around 10. The la7, obviously, has a lot of speed and I fear it in a dogfight. That basically means I fear every dogfight. There are too many of them and perking it should balance out the variety of aircraft.\

Now, a lot of people say that the spit and pony should be perked. However, these are arguably the two most famous fighters of world war II. When someone new wants to play aces high, and they figure out that the two infamous fighters of world war II are perked, that will turn him down because he cannot fly them. Also, I view the spitfire and p51 as more beginner planes rather than "dweeb" planes.

I am not whining in any way, I don't really care about the la7 or niki, its just that it seems like the entire arena is an la7 or niki.

SKurj · « **Reply #1 on:** July 13, 2003, 05:04:02 PM »

Too funny!!!

You should delete this thread now...

SKurj

Kweassa · « **Reply #2 on:** July 13, 2003, 06:18:27 PM »

Let's make a deal at 4 points for the La, and 3 for the N1K2.

acepilot2 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 13, 2003, 06:27:27 PM »

Actually, I actually think 4 for la7 would be okay...nik should be a lot. I am going to get totally flamed for this thread and called a whiner and what not but hey i am just saying the plane variety is uneven.

SKurj · « **Reply #4 on:** July 13, 2003, 08:25:28 PM »

Well lets see...

Spit: likely most famous and popular brit plane
P51: likely most famous and popular US plane
La7: Likely most popular and perhaps most famous plane amongst russian players/russian aircraft fans
n1k2: again most popular and only really capable japanese plane, so favoured by many japanese players

Soooo!!

If you are gonna perk n1k and la7, ya gotta spread the joy and perk the spit and p51 too...

Perkin the n1k is a bit of a joke IMO, at least half the plane set can catch it.

The saving grace of most of the perk planes is they can disengage at will. This wouldn't be the case with the n1k or the spit.

SKurj

K-KEN · « **Reply #5 on:** July 13, 2003, 09:52:24 PM »

I don't think you will get flamed, but I do disagree. Actually, I think planes should not be perked. Why, well because. You want an explanation, OK here is mine.

In actual war, you weren't asked to "pay" for the plane you had to fly. You were chosen. Or, the plane was not available because of production and delivery. Upgrading your plane in WWII was on a need-to-know and need-to-upgrade issue based on enemy activity. Sometimes the shipments were late, and sometimes parts were not available. Can HTC include these variables into gameplay? Maybe. Do I think that planes and vehicles need to be perked? NO, I think there might be a STRAT
setting that drives the availability and supply of planes, parts, ammo, fuel, troops, and ground vehicles. The dynamics are huge.

So I guess, there could be a beginner level, and so-on and so-forth, to test your skills and allow you access to better, faster, and more sophisticated aircraft, as your rate improves.

However, the perk thing to me is kinda lame, but in the MA it's acceptable. In a new setting, it night get challenged.

K-KEN

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Kweassa · « **Reply #6 on:** July 13, 2003, 10:06:49 PM »

Ken, the attrition concept you talk about, will piss off more players than any suggested perk setting!

Karnak · « **Reply #7 on:** July 13, 2003, 10:47:41 PM »

Perk the N1K2 (I hardly see these anymore anyways) and you'll never see them again. It would suffer the triple wammy of a unique icon, high perk cost (at your suggested price) and to slow to escape from, probably, 90% of the fighters encountered in the MA.

The N1K2 is helpless before anybody who has a reasonably speedy aircraft and a clue what they are doing.

You realize that you suggested that an aircraft that was produced in eight times the number of the Ta152H-1 and saw heavy use be perked at a higher cost?

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #8 on:** July 14, 2003, 12:37:17 AM »

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Originally posted by acepilot2
I believe that the la7 and niki should be perked. The niki should be perked about 30. I am not 100% sure on this, but I believe the niki was not available until the last year/months of the war, like 1944 or 45. Considering how well it manuvers, it should be perked and it was not used until the end of the war. I do not think the la7 should not be perked as much, probably around 10. The la7, obviously, has a lot of speed and I fear it in a dogfight. That basically means I fear every dogfight. There are too many of them and perking it should balance out the variety of aircraft.\

Now, a lot of people say that the spit and pony should be perked. However, these are arguably the two most famous fighters of world war II. When someone new wants to play aces high, and they figure out that the two infamous fighters of world war II are perked, that will turn him down because he cannot fly them. Also, I view the spitfire and p51 as more beginner planes rather than "dweeb" planes.

I am not whining in any way, I don't really care about the la7 or niki, its just that it seems like the entire arena is an la7 or niki.

It seems every month brings a new perk the La7/N1K2/Spitfire/P-51D thread. Honestly, why not just learn how to fight them instead of trying to perk them? It's a whole lot better and rewarding than trying to defeat them by perking them.

Besides, planes aren't perked because of year they were introduced or quantity that saw action but rather on how they effect the game balance in the arena. You may disagree on this but here's a little snippet from the manual (I really wish more people would read it...)

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The perk system is a way for HTC to introduce some interesting but otherwise unbalancing planes on a limited basis but the benefits go deeper than that. Perk planes (and vehicles) would be things like Me 262s, Ta 152s, Tempests, B-29s, Ar 234s, Tiger IIs, etc. These are interesting rides but would be very unbalancing if they were available on an unlimited basis. So there won't be unlimited availability but they'll be available as bonuses or perks every so often.

Ack-Ack

Dr Zhivago · « **Reply #9 on:** July 14, 2003, 06:36:54 AM »

Perk the La7 three cannon model...

_Schadenfreude_ · « **Reply #10 on:** July 14, 2003, 06:49:38 AM »

would be interesting to see what a 5 point perk on P51's, La7's, Spit9's and N1K1's would do.....

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2003, 07:03:28 AM »

It would do nothing. All you are doing is making those planes inaccessable to new players that come in. There is no valid reason to perk those planes, none of them unbalance the arena in any way.

Ack-Ack

Kweassa · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2003, 05:19:27 PM »

Oh, there are a lot of valid reasons.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2003, 07:02:26 PM »

Which are? The N1K2, La7, Spitfire Mk IX or the P-51D hardly unbalance the game play in the arena, which is the only reason why a plane should be perked. So following that criteria, there are no valid reasons to perk them. And the argument that there's more people flying those planes than any of the other ones doesn't make the arena unbalanced.

Ack-Ack

Tumor · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2003, 07:22:19 PM »

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Originally posted by SKurj

Soooo!!

If you are gonna perk n1k and la7, ya gotta spread the joy and perk the spit and p51 too...

What a GRAND idea. Hmmm, perk the most popular planes, possibly leading to a .... oh never mind.

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