Author Topic: Landing For Wussies? (Read 1816 times)

XtrmeJ · « **on:** July 14, 2003, 07:28:15 AM »

I have heard some talk that "landing" or returning to base for ammo is "wussie". Personally i think this is not true. After going out to an enemy field then returning to base is a sense of accomplishment. If i happen to run out of ammo i am going to RTB and not auger my plane. Others think that if you run outa ammo you should just auger and grab another. God forbid that you run outa ammo and/or gas that you should rtb. I think this is the wrong way to go about it. Personally I want to know what you think.. Am I a score potato because I land my kills?

Let the thrashing begin!

oboe · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2003, 07:40:02 AM »

Different strokes for different folks. It all depends on how you approach the sim.

Lots of people just like to up in an La-7 or Spit and dive into the nearest, largest furball they can find, and see how many kills they can get before they get killed. Over and over.

Personally, I like the added challenges of flying a lesser-performing plane and trying to keep my virtual hide alive, but it's their dime. Just because more people fly a certain way doesn't make it right.

I think you'll like the new Mission Theater concept with AHII. Stay tuned.

Zippatuh · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2003, 07:44:27 AM »

I like to land them myself. I don’t always get that choice but if I’m bingo amo, I’m RTB.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2003, 07:50:51 AM »

If I'm low on ammo or fuel that I run the risk of running empty of either in the middle of a fight, damn straight I'm going to try to return to base if I can. But that's usually the only time I'll consider trying to go out of my way and land, unless I have battle damage and can no longer fight, in that case I'll try to nurse my damaged plane home.

Ack-Ack

gofaster · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2003, 09:58:13 AM »

It depends on how desperate we are to hold the front line. If there aren't any replacement pilots coming, I'll hold out as long as I can, until I either run out of gas or ammo or both (usually gas first). Otherwise I'll keep reloading until I get tired or get shot down.

vorticon · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2003, 11:18:03 AM »

i like to get as many kills as possible then rtb...

SixxGunn · « **Reply #6 on:** July 14, 2003, 11:46:49 AM »

I to like to rtb and land my kills if low fuel or no ammo.

Depends how far behind the lines I am as to what I set as minimum fuel before I RTB. Also I will try not to blow all my ammo and save just enough to go defensive if I have to while RTBing.

As a matter of fact XtrmeJ you jumped me in a 262 as I was trying to RTB just the other night. I was in a YAK working my way thru a valley with no ammo.

Long story short you finally blasted me.

I would have liked to have landed my 6 kills but, such is life.

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T0J0 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 14, 2003, 12:24:38 PM »

Being able to land with damage and with kills is big fun in my book
its a challenge..specially when half the plane is shredded off...
Some people prefer quake though...We should have a quake type spawn arena where the quakers can spawn at 15k in whatever...

0J0T

Karnak · « **Reply #8 on:** July 14, 2003, 12:50:53 PM »

I never take off with the intent of a one way trip. They usually are, but I always intend on landing my aircraft.

Yes, even when I fly the Spitfire.

I've had some really great fights that I wished I'd filmed doing that. If I just augered when I ran out of ammo or flew 'till the engines quit I'd never have had those.

In my most memorable I was RTB in a Mossie that was on fumes and down to 60 rounds of 20mm ammo (still had 3120 rounds of .303) when I came across one of our C-47s that was smoking and under attack by an La-7. I went to WEP and dove what little altitude I had to try to intercept the La-7 before he got the C-47. I only managed to get close enough to fire a desparation burst at the La-7 if I were to save the C-47. Unfortunately my 20mm cannon ran dry without scoring a hit and the C-47 suffered for it, breaking up and crashing.

This left me in a Mossie, on fumes, with only .303s, down to 90 seconds of WEP, on the deck, closing on an La-7 and all alone. The La-7 started to weave back and forth to try to bleed my speed off so he could disengage and run (hey, it was an La-7, that's what they do) while I peppered him with .303s. I kept with him better than I thought I would as our energy bled off due to the manuvers. I guess he was worried about being smacked by my quad of 20mm cannon if he just leveled and ran, so he transitioned to a horizontal turn fight to try to pull around behind me. As he realized that he couldn't out turn (A Mossie on fumes and out of 20mm ammo turns pretty good) me he started adding verticle yo-yos to the fight, but I clung on peppering him with more .303s every now and then.

Then my WEP ran out. The La-7 began to pull away from my nose and the openings for my shots got fewer and shorter, but the La-7 pilot was getting desparate, after all it was only a matter of time before the 20mms connected. He started really pushing the La-7s limits on turning and what would have been my final shot came and went, but he was desparate to get out of my guns and kept pushing it. He pushed his La-7 too far though, flick stalled and slammed into the ground.

Who knows, maybe he had a pilot wound. I had pinged him up with .303s, but I think he was undamaged and was getting alarmed at his inability to escape the big lumbering Mossie that he thought should have been just a target and free kill to any La-7.

I returned to base, landing just before my fuel ran out.

lazs2 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 14, 2003, 01:20:01 PM »

I allways, or, allmost allways, plan on surviving. Landing shot up is challenging and I get a lot of practice. If the field is very far away and there are good fights on the map I will go a little past halfway and ditch so as not to give a stat scewing death or an undeserved kill.
lazs

Ouch · « **Reply #10 on:** July 14, 2003, 01:46:14 PM »

Like someone else said, it may not turn out like I want, but I fully intend to land every time I take off. (There are times I know it won't happen, like when I'm defending a vulched field, but I still HOPE I'll be able to land.)

A HUGE part of my love for this game is the immersion factor that you can get if you try. Ignore the fact that you have allied and axis planes on both sides, and just let yourself get into the game. I have landed so often, covered in sweat and shaking, that I feel like I don't need to do real exercise. My heart is pounding, my hands are shaking and I can barely get out of the chair.

Some of my favorite fights have been me, desperate to get back to the field, nursing a damaged plane, trying to find the right blend of "low enough not to be seen, but high enough not to be meat if seen".

Ouch out

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #11 on:** July 14, 2003, 02:36:00 PM »

Diving into fights with no ammo and low fuel is 'wussy?'

Seems like a rather silly concept to me. What are you gonna do? Spit on the guy in your sights?

MrCoffee · « **Reply #12 on:** July 14, 2003, 02:47:47 PM »

Landing is not a wussie thing. This thread is just a gimmick to lure noobies into flying to their death so that someone can get their kills.

Skuzzy · « **Reply #13 on:** July 14, 2003, 03:08:36 PM »

I'll let you know how I feel about this, once I have figured out how to survive long enough to think about landing.

In the meantime, I am no end of entertainment to others.

XtrmeJ · « **Reply #14 on:** July 14, 2003, 06:08:47 PM »

LOL Skuzzy. As long as you have the full intent of returning to base thats fine. Alot of the times when i say "I am rtb for ammo" or "Im damaged" or anything that prohibits me from fighting, i get a few ppl who say just auger your plane and get back here as fast as you can. Now this is a simulation, and im trying to simulate what a WWII pilot would have dont in such a situation.