Nath's ban; quickie questions to HTC

[-ammo-]

OK I will give ya that, maybe you arent a fortune teller, (just one of satan's demons..?). But I personally would have put some thought into that before posting it and would have thought better of it. But I am definately not you, and you are the man of the hour.

ammo

[blutic]

Who is Nath?
This guy either had balls of brass, or a brain of the same.

blutic

[Mr. T]

Jihad, Grunherz... you are both tools. More worthless than a wad of jizz on a napkin. More annoying than booger that just refuses to come out of your nose.

Now run along, I'm sure there are other threads that need your special attention.
-SW

[GRUNHERZ]

Im truly offended Mr. T, no, Im hurt deeply and emotionally scarred by that statement.
Yep I am.....

You and you girlfriend DJ are pretty pathetic all you ever do is attack and critize anyone who pretty much says anything or tries to bring a new idea into AH , you two are just a gang of scared, fearful and unimaginative bullies. So you 2 please do us all a favor and go away on a long honeymoon together.

[Mr. T]

 

Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
You and you girlfriend DJ are pretty pathetic all you ever do is attack and critize anyone who pretty much says anything or tries to bring a new idea into AH , you two are just a gang of scared, fearful and unimaginative bullies. So you 2 please do us all a favor and go away on a long honeymoon together.

And you sir are full of toejam. If the idea is a good one I don't comment on it or I add my ideas. If it's some of your same ol' same ol' "waaaaaa remove the N1K2/Chog/Whatever" from you, then yeah I'll attack that idea.

When you stop squeaking and moaning I'll stop attacking your lame ass.
Until then...
-SW

[Swager]

Cool  

That's my story and I'm stickin to it!!!

[SethK]

hehe look at the toejamstorm little ol me created...lol

[Staga]

Nope, This toejamstorm was created by HTC when they banned Nath. IMO.

[jihad]

 

Originally posted by Mr. T:
Jihad, Grunherz... you are both tools. More worthless than a wad of jizz on a napkin. More annoying than booger that just refuses to come out of your nose.

Now run along, I'm sure there are other threads that need your special attention.
-SW

You seem to be obsessed with male genitalia and its issue, there are plenty of porn sites dedicated to your sickness - no need to air it on HTC's UBB.

[Dago]

Yeah, I need to stay more relevant to the thread.  HTC booted Nath because of his actions, and maybe others need to be booted as well.  I strongly believe HTC has not booted anyone without some sort of warning, and I don't believe HTC can be aware of everything, every incident that happens online.

So the "why Nath and not xxxxx" cannot be answered.  Its all about observations of actions, being aware of what is happening.  I am sure HTC hates to take such an action.
Why not gunman26?  His time will come.  Anyone who continually acts stupid will eventually come to HTCs attention, and I am confident they will act on it as necessary. It just takes time.

Dago

[This message has been edited by Dago (edited 05-13-2001).]

[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by Dago:
Nath is to blame for the banning, not HTC.  They were plenty tolerant, giving him many chances to behave, grow up.  He choose not to do it.  Good riddance.

Once again, you're missing the point of StSanta's post.  Nobody on this board... NOBODY... has argued that Nath did not deserve to be banned.  Why belabor that?

The main issue is that others have exhibited similarly anti-social behavior, they have done so repeatedly and unrepentently, and they continue to do so with impunity.  Why aren't they banned as well?  Were Nath's indiscretions so much more egregious?

Others here have argued that HTC should or shouldn't publish a set of arena codes of conduct.  I don't think that's really necessary.  Rather, HTC needs a systematic process for dealing with troublemakers such that:  1)  said troublemakers are dealt with quickly but fairly, and 2) they avoid the appearance of arbitrariness.  The latter is important because disruptive players should know exactly what sort of punishment they can expect from continuously poor behavior.  

-- Todd/DMF

[Pollock]

This stuff scares me what is next a zero tolerence radio disipline.  Let it go Maybe the insecure ones will evenually get back in the game when they can act civilized let HTC do as they please...

[Pollock]

One more thing Santa I applaud your sticking up for a squaddie, but to give you a different example that I believe is relevent.

I got a speeding ticket 2 weeks ago and was going with the flow and mentioned to johnny law what about the other cars that i was following his reply was you were the one that i caught.

[bowser]

"...The main issue is that others have exhibited similarly anti-social behavior, they have done so repeatedly and unrepentently, and they continue to do so with impunity. Why aren't they banned as well? Were Nath's indiscretions so much more egregious?..."

Several people in this thread have explained it very well, but you don't seem to want to hear it.

HTC obviously has a lot of patience and they have to continually be "poked in the eye" as one person put it, before they react.  They're not going to ban someone on the basis of a couple of incidents.  HTC will give them enough rope to hang themselves.

Your comparing other people's behaviour to your friend's, suggesting it is as deplorable and done repeatedly.  Obviously HTC disagrees.  Maybe you're not being objective?

If this gunman26 and others that people bring up as examples continue their behaviour over a period of time, I'm sure they will be dealt with also.  Give it time, the wheels of justice move slowly.  

bowser

[Dead Man Flying]

 

Originally posted by bowser:
Several people in this thread have explained it very well, but you don't seem to want to hear it.

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And again, it is you who does not hear it.  I'm not defending Nath.  Get it?  I find it humerous that someone can read one of my posts and take that away from it.

 

HTC obviously has a lot of patience and they have to continually be "poked in the eye" as one person put it, before they react.  They're not going to ban someone on the basis of a couple of incidents.  HTC will give them enough rope to hang themselves.

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You speak as if you're intimately familiar with the events that lead up to Nath's banning.  Maybe you can enlighten us as to how the pokes that Nath took occurred more frequently or with greater vitriole than what's going on right now.  As I've said before, I don't buy it.  I think the behavior of some of the players right now is every bit as bad as anything Nath ever did, and it's every bit as consistent.

Would you consider what gunman26 does to be a "couple" of incidents?  Evidence would suggest otherwise.  This is why I think standards of warning and punishments -- published standards -- would be an important deterrent to this sort of behavior.  That also grants HTC broad discretion to determine what sort of behavior they consider disruptive while reducing the appearance of arbitrary justice through due process.  Obviously, as they are a private business this isn't at all necessary.  However, I think it would go a long way to acting as a deterrent to continued misbehavior when the punishments are clear.

 

Obviously HTC disagrees.  Maybe you're not being objective?

I wouldn't be the only one who disagrees with HTC then, and it has nothing to do with being objective or not objective.  The main points I'm trying to make are not that gunman26, Citabria, or anyone else should be banned.  Rather, I'm pointing out that seems to be a disparity in enforcement and degree of punishment that allows disruptive players to continue being disruptive.  I hope HTC can plug that hole.

-- Todd/DMF