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Offline Nash

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« on: July 17, 2003, 06:01:55 AM »
There ya have it. Thanks for playing everyone, and have a safe ride home.

(I'd offer my congratulations to the winner, but considering the nature of the bet there's no way to do it without sounding silly. :) )

Toad... Yours and mine's bet comes due 3 months from today. That's the one I'm looking forward to. :p

Edit: Surfed around a bit. Came back and saw the title of this post. Almost caught off guard. Thought back to 6 months ago, and how suprising it is now to actually see these words, and this result, posted here. Something else...
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Offline Dowding

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« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2003, 06:21:53 AM »
I think 6 months from cessation of combat operations is more realistic anyways. I was willing to give the inspectors until the Autumn, afterall.
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« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2003, 06:45:16 AM »
I honestly don't think it makes that much of a difference. It's just instinct, but it tells me that if you can't find it in three, it's probably not going to be there in six.

The most likely sites have already been searched, and the majority of the people who would have been involved in any weapons programs have already been interviewed. If WMD turns up, it's going to have to come from the less likely sites, or come by way of a tip from someone not as involved. And the odds of that happening are obviously higher.

I don't think more time equates to more area you can cover with a shovel. I don't think we're looking at that kind of search.

Still, it's anyone's guess...
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Offline Fishu

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« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2003, 07:11:23 AM »
Saddam can be a bad person, but it doesn't mean he'd be stupid.

I really can't find a reason why he would have wanted to develop WMD and risk his life.
Not even to strenghten his position, since it wouldn't have worked against western countries if they'd find out he really has WMD. (which kind of happened already, even without the proofs)

For Saddam, it was all about staying in power.


Therefore my opinion from the begining has been that he won't have the hyped WMD.

He did have WMD back in the times, but back then he also had nice allies.. US being one of them.
Until he stirred up the wrong bee nest..
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which wmd do they need to find to count ?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2003, 07:16:42 AM »
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2003, 07:22:55 AM »
Hiya's,
Bets ehh

Look at the area of iraq, Mass graves being found now dating to more than a decade or if not 2 decades ago, WMD inpsectors kicked out of iraq for what was it 4yrs ?

Hmm saddi (sadaam) i've got an idea (an aid for eg), Let's pick some points in remote areas now that no-ones looking n spying within our borders and dump/bury/conceal/contain in deep bunkers etc etc anything we wanna hide, Hell lets even without anyones knowledge build a legit something over em, Darn it bro t'is a cunning plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox !

Guys try and remember how this regime hid most of its stuff from the west, Now you really think knowing the major power/s in the west wanted to find evidence asap that the regime would of hid anything where it could easily be found ? Dang it's like looking for a needle in a million + 1 barns

My bet would of been at least 1-2yrs unless someone with knowledge grassed/caughed-up/snitched

Time will tell (if not a snitch will)
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« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2003, 07:25:56 AM »
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Hmm saddi (sadaam) i've got an idea (an aid for eg), Let's pick some points in remote areas now that no-ones looking n spying within our borders and dump/bury/conceal/contain in deep bunkers etc etc anything we wanna hide, Hell lets even without anyones knowledge build a legit something over em, Darn it bro t'is a cunning plan so cunning you could put a tail on it and call it a fox !


Ya, what happened to the 45 mins deployment plan then? Shall we go over this AGAIN?
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« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2003, 07:45:57 AM »
Eagler - worse things happen Africa. So my question to you is, when is the CVN flotilla due to arrive over there?

WMD is the issue, there is no escaping that fact. It was what the whole show was riding on.
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2003, 08:00:25 AM »
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...WMD is the issue, there is no escaping that fact. It was what the whole show was riding on.


The sad part of this Dowding is that too many people look at it with that attitude.  Sadaam's regime was evil, and rotten to the core.  Millions of people died, quite ruthlessly.  WMD's were a forefront of the instigation, but not the only reason.  Stability within the arab world was another major factor.  We can hound about no WMD's being found, but it will not change the fact that Iraq is a better place now then it was 1 yr ago, in 5 yrs it will be even better.  

On the flip side, they will locate the disposition of the WMD's within 2 years from cessation of hostilities, sooner if Sadaam or his sons are caught.  Sadly, that still will not be enough for the naysayers.  

I wonder what the average Iraqi really thinks.  In the end, thats the attitude that matters.  :eek:
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2003, 08:04:33 AM »
Why didnt you djust say : We are gonna start an war with Iraq to remove Saddam from power.

Things would have been so much easier then...
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Re: which wmd do they need to find to count ?
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2003, 08:05:53 AM »
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Congolese Liberian or Iraqi skull ?
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2003, 08:09:26 AM »
3 months was the bet. What beer is MT buying?
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2003, 08:20:42 AM »
we can't even find some important people in iraq, does that mean they don't exist?
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« Reply #13 on: July 17, 2003, 08:26:27 AM »
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we can't even find some important people in iraq, does that mean they don't exist?
lazs


hehehe

yep, Saddam and his sons were just computer animations...
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« Reply #14 on: July 17, 2003, 08:36:35 AM »
Good grief. We looked for the Atlanta bomber for how long? He was hiding in that huge Metropolis of North Carolina.

Some of you arm chair intelligence experts are a riot.
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