Author Topic: 3 Months Passed. No WMD. 10Bears Wins Bet. (Read 3192 times)

devious · « **Reply #30 on:** July 17, 2003, 10:24:48 AM »

Well the "leader of the free world" took his conclusions from intelligence apparently NOBODY checked and NOBODY produced. (Or did they find the "guilty" guy putting false intelligence into the president of the USA`s mouth ? I should seek a job with an american intelligence agency, to produce a dossier making the US go to war with, say, france - NOBODY would notice).

Sorry, I can`t take a country seriously whose leader takes it to war on unchecked allegations. Yeah, he needed an excuse, so why didn`t he go to war for Saddam murdering his own people ? Not dramatic enough to warrant a 6 months hate campaign taking attention away from domestic problems ?

Why doesn`t Bush step down finally ? Starting a war on lies would be enough for ANY other political leader.

What upsets me most is that there is NO public outroar in the US. "So we went to war on a false allegation, who cares ! America #1". They even happily give up personal freedom rights for beeing more "secure" from "Al Kaida" - LOL. Maybe the US should stop waging war everywhere it has an interest, that would stop terrorists way better than videotapes you can play on TV AFTER Mr. Terrorist walked in and blew a Scysraper with PERFECTLY LEGAL PAPERS on him.

In short I see liars, dilletancy, and greed for power. And an american people so dumbed down they don`t even object.

Now flame away.

Yeager · « **Reply #31 on:** July 17, 2003, 10:42:05 AM »

What upsets me most is that there is NO public outroar in the US
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ROAR!!!!!

there! feel better?

Eagler · « **Reply #32 on:** July 17, 2003, 10:47:12 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
What upsets me most is that there is NO public outroar in the US
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ROAR!!!!!

there! feel better?

gotta go outside and do it in public

midnight Target · « **Reply #33 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:16:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Saintaw
3 months was the bet. What beer is MT buying?

WHAT!!????

Nash · « **Reply #34 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:31:01 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
My plan of action would be a little more in depth that a couple of guys with a metal detectors and a book of popular phrases such as "Have you seen any nasty chemicals around here recently?"

LOL!

That's the best answer I've seen to the people who talk about this vast, Californian sized desert... suggesting that there are folks out there right now criss-crossing it with shovels and compasses, and therefore it's going to take some time. As bloody IF.

It doesn't matter if Iraq is the size of California or Vermont... The search method would be the same in both cases and it would have nothing to do with covering every inch of it in humvees or some other such nonsense.

Anyhow... Nice one Dowding.

Rude · « **Reply #35 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:37:58 AM »

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Originally posted by Dowding
After offering substantive rewards including amnesty from prosecution to former, high ranking members of that government and common soldiers and scientists for information as to the crate's whereabouts, backed up by an extensive intelligence service that has information from agents that were in the country prior to the 'treasure hunt' starting?

I'd say about 6 months tops and that's being generous. My plan of action would be a little more in depth that a couple of guys with a metal detectors and a book of popular phrases such as "Have you seen any nasty chemicals around here recently?"

And let's not forget what the 'swingometer of plausibility' showed before and after the conflict; the sources showing indisputable evidence that Iraq had weaponized WMD ready to go in 45 minutes now suddenly dissappeared with end of the war.

You've got to admit these are interesting times - I wonder how history will record the current events?

I wasn't aware that US Forces were all focused on finding WMD's...seems they have had some distractions, one of which is to restore order.

Toad · « **Reply #36 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:39:31 AM »

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The words you speak today should be soft and tender. . . for tomorrow you may have to eat them.

- Unknown

Well, six months may go by and no WMD. I'll pay my bet with Nash.

Then... just maybe... just possibly... 10 years will go by and some folks will be drilling for oil or checking out a cave or exploring some bunker just unmasked by howling desert storms and reveal a huge hoard of "Saddam's Lost WMD".

Or maybe, just maybe... it'll be six months + one day.

Rude · « **Reply #37 on:** July 17, 2003, 11:42:26 AM »

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Originally posted by devious
Well the "leader of the free world" took his conclusions from intelligence apparently NOBODY checked and NOBODY produced. (Or did they find the "guilty" guy putting false intelligence into the president of the USA`s mouth ? I should seek a job with an american intelligence agency, to produce a dossier making the US go to war with, say, france - NOBODY would notice).

Sorry, I can`t take a country seriously whose leader takes it to war on unchecked allegations. Yeah, he needed an excuse, so why didn`t he go to war for Saddam murdering his own people ? Not dramatic enough to warrant a 6 months hate campaign taking attention away from domestic problems ?

Why doesn`t Bush step down finally ? Starting a war on lies would be enough for ANY other political leader.

What upsets me most is that there is NO public outroar in the US. "So we went to war on a false allegation, who cares ! America #1". They even happily give up personal freedom rights for beeing more "secure" from "Al Kaida" - LOL. Maybe the US should stop waging war everywhere it has an interest, that would stop terrorists way better than videotapes you can play on TV AFTER Mr. Terrorist walked in and blew a Scysraper with PERFECTLY LEGAL PAPERS on him.

In short I see liars, dilletancy, and greed for power. And an american people so dumbed down they don`t even object.

Now flame away.

You're ignorant of America....only the fringe left wing wacko's are upset....now give it another year and evidence of a cover up by Bush or deceit on his part....we'll run him out.

Currently, the hopes of every liberal in the US ride on this war failing, the fight against terrorism failing and the US economy failing....it's all about puting a Democrat back in the White House.

Sandman · « **Reply #38 on:** July 17, 2003, 12:05:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Rude
You're ignorant of America....only the fringe left wing wacko's are upset....

...and according to the polls, this is approximately 9% of the population. They weren't upset before.

10Bears · « **Reply #39 on:** July 17, 2003, 02:18:17 PM »

Thx Nash, but today is the 17th not the 19th..

Toad you can send the money to HTC on Mass's account. Send me the recipt via email ... I got a new one

stevehouston@verizon.net

This is real DSL baby!... not ADSL.. I get 1100bps up and 1100bps down.. prolly faster than yours eh?...

Someone mentioned above this scandal wasn't getting much traction with the American public... well.. hold on to your hats!.. Somehow the mainstream media decided not to carry water for Bush any more.. Check this weeks news items.. Joseph Wilson and that..

The BS about the aluminum tubes next week... Office of Special Plans the week after.. It’s gonna get hot in that kitchen.

After giving the UN the bird.. now they want UN troops to patrol the mean streets of Baghdad. But what no-one has discussed is going to the Arab League for peace keeper troops. That would be the best face saving way for us to pull out and still be the victors.

Dubba is a nice enough fella.. and I feel bad for George and Barb, they’re nice people, but Junior is going to have to experience accountability for the first time in his life.

The way to do that is apply pressure to Vise President Chenny to resign, then Sec of Defense Rumsfield, then Sec. of State Condi “I don’t know nuthin bout birth an babies” Rice. That would leave the king open..

Republicans and Democrats have to ban together and wrestle our country back from these big corporations and I’m heartened that some are finally waking up.

My dream is for Wes Clark to throw in his hat at the last minute. He cuts a deal with the Republicans behind closed doors so they get to keep most of their programs..(pardons Bush and Chenny), most of their tax cut in exchange for the slim machine to be turned off at least for the first couple of years. Then we’d have a President we all could be happy with.

EDIT:.. If you worried about finding WMD in the sand, P'shaw, just hire yourself an albino.

10Bears--

culero · « **Reply #40 on:** July 17, 2003, 02:22:40 PM »

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Originally posted by devious
Now flame away.

OK.

FOAD, Euro-trash.

culero (not kidding)

SaburoS · « **Reply #41 on:** July 17, 2003, 02:29:11 PM »

So our spy satellites and recon over-flights wouldn't pick up unusual off loading points of certain vehicles?
Seems that if we "knew" that Iraq was such a threat all along, it'd make sence that we'd be paying more attention to such things.
But then again, maybe, just maybe, we made up these "WMD" allegations.
Time will tell.

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Originally posted by Toad
Hey Dowding,

If I were given.... say.... 100 semi-trailers full of crates and given six months to hide them anywhere in the state of California with full governmental cooperation unlimited funding and total secrecy (breaches punished by death)......

How long do you think it would take you and any 200,000 folks you coose to find the crates?

Eagler · « **Reply #42 on:** July 17, 2003, 02:46:26 PM »

10bEARS

you better check those mushrooms in the fridge .. don't think they came from the produce dept at ur local grocery store

SLO · « **Reply #43 on:** July 17, 2003, 02:50:21 PM »

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Originally posted by SaburoS
But then again, maybe, just maybe, we made up these "WMD" allegations.
Time will tell.

not so much as 'MADE UP' per se.....

more of a 'blown out of proportion'.....

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #44 on:** July 17, 2003, 03:09:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Maniac
Ya, what happened to the 45 mins deployment plan then? Shall we go over this AGAIN?

I bury a metal box with $10,000 dollars somewhere on my property, and only I know the location of it... I could dig it up in 45 minutes, while it could take several days, if not years, for someone else to find it.

We can go over it again, but the above scenario shows that it is quite possible to have a 45minute deployment plan - but only a select few have the knowledge of how to put it into action.

"Why didn't they use it?!"

Why don't some people have dental care?
-SW