Friday, The 25th, Okinawa

[brady]

This Friday the 25the were going to rerun the Okinawa set up from Last May:

 
 This is a CM Terain Team Map, all those who took part in it's creation should be very proud it is an amasing map. All Aircraft have relavent and in most cases New skins.

The Allies will start with all their assest's at see, if they take a Base they will have Army Air assest and GV's available.

Fleat hardness will be 50% of MA standard, 4k for a Cv and 750 pounds for any other ship.

All bases have SB's they will be set to 5k, as apposed to 4k wich is their default seting.

The Ack gun hardenss will be increased to 50KG.

Ack lethality will be at .7, like it is normaly in the CT.

Dot dar will be at 20 miles for enemy and unlimited for friendly.

500 foot height for dar.

The plane set:

At start up all Allied airpower will be sea based, if the Allies take a base US Army Air assest's will be available their as well as GV's.


Plane set:

Their are two types of Allied CV task forces, one with 4 CV's and one with one CV. The 4 CV groups have two CA in them along with their CV's and the Single CV groupe is just like a MA fleat. Their are also 4 CA TF's like we had on the slot map. For this set up will will be using, 2 single CV group's, one Four CV groupe and one 4 CA groupe. The Japanese will have one Single CA groupe.

USN:

From the Four CV groupe(C1):

Hellcat
Wildcat FM2
TBM
SBD
LVT's

From the Single CV groupe (C3):

F4U-1D
TBM
SBD
LVT's

Royal Navy:

From the single CV groupe(C4):

F4U-1A (Skined as a Royal Navy Coursare)
TBM
SBD
LVT's

US Army:

P47D-30
A20
C47
The M's
Panzer IV
PT's

Japan:

All of them.
C47
The M's
Panzer IV
PT's

[snocone]

this setup was alot of fun last time it ran. but i have a few remarks, re, whines.

with the fleet hardness down you really have to careful with them. last time i was controling several fleets the first day of the setup. i was tryin to keep them a reasonable distance from the shore. i was getting yelled at for not moving them closer on the country channel. some one with a better rank finally got on and obliged the disgruntled masses. he then proceeded to sail them right on to the beach where our carriers where handily dispatched by people in the manned ack, not even the sb. sorry if you have to fly more than half a sector to get to a fight but lets try and be a little smarter this time.

anouther thing that bugged me was that the allies were never really able to push further inland. no big deal, there were always good fights to be found, but the large airbases were never really in play. these bases are very unique and the design team did a great job. i would like to see them used more. (also heard a post con rumor that this is more what the bases will look like in ah2)

just a couple of suggestions, didnt mean to whine, this setup will be a ton of fun!!!

[brady]

I played that last set up a lot and the Alies quiet often took the outer islands the ones to the west of Okinawa, and most all of the fighting took place on Okinawa it's self, every evening one two and sometimes three Bases on Okinawa were in Allied Hands.

[TimRas]

F4U-1C and F4U-4 should really be included, as these both types saw first combat here, at the battle for Okinawa. After all, should CT be historical ?

They could be perked to prevent overusage, though.

[ergRTC]

oh no, you mentioned the c word.  And the 4 word in the same post.



let the real whining begin.



I am surprised a post that has f4u in it at all had survived with out loud crying this long.

[ergRTC]

oh yeah, thanks brady!  I missed most of the f6f fun last time.  Glad to see it again so soon.

[najdorf]

I don't think anyone will dispute the historical inclusion of the Chog or F4U-4.

Personally, I have no objection to the Chog, because it's not appreciably faster or better handling the 1.  On the other hand, the 4 hog is both better handling and faster than all other hog variants.  The allies already have a considerable speed ad with the planes included.  Adding the 4 may completely unbalance the situation.

I'll still fly IJ no matter what planes are given to the USN, but I think adding the 4 hog may be a bit of overkill.

I would suggest adding a sub for the Ki84 if the 4 hog is added, perhaps the Yak 9U reskinned with meatballs.

[ergRTC]

Yak doesnt really have the same firepower though does it?  I always thought a d9 might be a better replacement for the 84.  

allies dont need those super birds anyway.

[keyapaha]

thanks for including the a6m2 it was not included last time and I had to fly a Ki61 not that theres any thing wrong with that.

  whats a good whine to go with cooked f4u's?


 BTW the La5fn would be a closer Ki84 sub

[najdorf]

I think the 5n has the same firepower defficiency the Erg mentioned.  However, the D9 turns like a pig while the Yak and La5n handle pretty well.  I was more interested in a plane with similar handling and speed characteristics than the firepower issue.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be in a D9 going up against the 4 Hog.

[LtMagee]

I dont know if it is Historical but the allies should have the F4U-1C and F4U-4 on land bases for the Marines.

[Eagler]

Originally posted by LtMagee
I dont know if it is Historical but the allies should have the F4U-1C and F4U-4 on land bases for the Marines.

and the japs should have some 109's because.. er .. just because

[Soulyss]

yay... this has quickly become my favorite CT setup.

[Kweassa]

I support the La5FN to stand in for the Ki84, too. Sounds very reasonable, and offers a very good chance against the USN planes.

 Oh, I also think the Chog and the 4hog should be included to.

[brady]

I am not going to add the uber hog's, sry guy's:

 "C", to uber would cause playbalance issues, as mentioned above the Allies have several advantags already and this would  be a bit much.

  "4" Pretymuch the same as above, and It saw very little action, only operated at the very end of the Batttle and I think they had a total of 9 kills in all for the entire war, at least thats what I remember for my Americas 100,000, even if it had a ton of kills I would not add it because of balance issues.

 The CT is suposed to Historicaly based but never at the expence of game play.

 I dont care for the concept of subing a Russian plane for the Ki-84 they are way diferent planes, and the imershion would go into the toilet, to do that would still not adress all the balance issues assoicated with adding the Uber Hog's.