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Offline BUG_EAF322

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« Reply #255 on: August 02, 2003, 12:42:13 AM »
I'm glad i fly P38 so i know i'm not the fastest or best climber or best diver roller etc.

Not to mention the more millimeter guns.

I know that every planes does have it's weakness or strength realistic or not they are there and u got to handle them to survive.

It also saves time to the forever quest  searching books and data, to find the right numbers and claim for more uberness.

Not to mention to ask for about 10 variants of one type

Why is it such a wabble thing to whine about the plane??

Not to mention the thread starter who does have a kill ratio wich is not to whine about.



 



:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #256 on: August 02, 2003, 01:05:22 AM »
Yea right, everyone knows Toad c,ould'nt get laid :p
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« Reply #257 on: August 02, 2003, 05:16:32 AM »
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Are you talking about air combat or the getting laid part? If it's the former I'm interested in hearing more ... NOT if it's the latter! ;)

You have to be very careful on rejoin.  :)
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« Reply #258 on: August 02, 2003, 08:20:16 AM »
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Are you talking about air combat or the getting laid part?


Both, now that I think about it.

Bug has it nailed.
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« Reply #259 on: August 04, 2003, 11:11:34 AM »
The 190 used in those tests from the Report was a Captured 190 A3 that ditched in England after the pilot got disoriantated.

Personally I don't care much anymore, 190's accelreation and the TA152's accelerations are FUBAR but I've givven up on it. It is what is is and will remain like it.
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« Reply #260 on: August 04, 2003, 12:40:22 PM »
Shiit Wilbuz, you are right.
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Offline JAWS2003

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« Reply #261 on: August 27, 2003, 01:04:47 PM »
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From Ecke's link:

http://www.odyssey.dircon.co.uk/VBv190.htm

Climb:The climb of the FW 190 is superior to that of the Spitfire VB at all heights.

The best speeds for climbing are approximately the same, but the angle of the FW 190 is considerably steeper. Under maximum continuous climbing conditions the climb of the FW 190 is about 450 ft/min better up to 25,000'. With both aircraft flying at high cruising speed and then pulling up into a climb, the superior climb of the FW 190 is even more marked.  When both aircraft are pulled up into a climb from a dive, the FW 190 draws away very rapidly and the pilot of the Spitfire has no hope of catching it.

Dive: Comparative dives between the two aircraft have shown that the FW 190 can leave the Spitfire with ease, particularly during the initial stages.

Manoeuvrability. The manoeuvrability of the FW 190 is better than that of the Spitfire VB except in turning circles, when the Spitfire can quite easily out-turn it. The FW 190 has better acceleration under all conditions of flight and this must obviously be most useful during combat.

Better climb up to 25000 feet?
Steeper climb?
Better zoom climb?
Better dive particulary during initial stages?
Better acceleration under all conditions?

What 190A was that? 190A9?? 190A10??

that was a FW 190 A3 that by mistake landed into england and was tested by the RAF, it was in 1942 I think. the A-5 in AH should do much better then that but is not. BTW, did enyone test the fw-190 A's at altitude? Looks like no FW is able to get more then 250 Mph at 30k. Hm... how did they shot down so many Bombers if in AH they can't even catch a Lanc at 30k.
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« Reply #262 on: August 27, 2003, 01:23:49 PM »
JAWS: Do you know the differance between IAS and TAS?

HiTech
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Re: Re: 190A vs SpitVB
« Reply #263 on: August 27, 2003, 01:32:46 PM »
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Bombers if in AH they can't even catch a Lanc at 30k.


The Lanc could not get to 30K.;) Only 24,500ft. at mean weight.
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« Reply #264 on: August 27, 2003, 01:38:45 PM »
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The Lanc could not get to 30K.;) Only 24,500ft. at mean weight.

few days ago i was running after one at 30k for about half hour with no luck:(
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« Reply #265 on: August 27, 2003, 01:41:20 PM »
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JAWS: Do you know the differance between IAS and TAS?

HiTech

yep. but no matter how you take it no FW190 A can catch a b17 at 30k in AH.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: 190A vs SpitVB
« Reply #266 on: August 27, 2003, 01:49:28 PM »
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few days ago i was running after one at 30k for about half hour with no luck:(


Then there is something wrong with the FM.;)
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Offline JAWS2003

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« Reply #267 on: August 27, 2003, 01:54:59 PM »
And trust me, I have a lot of hours in fw's. I fly as "ghi"
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« Reply #268 on: August 27, 2003, 02:03:50 PM »
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JAWS: Do you know the differance between IAS and TAS?
 
The differance between TAS and IAS is explained nice here:
HiTech

http://www.flusitreff.de/geschwindigkeiten.htm
http://www.ivao.org/training/tutorials/Ipack/Files/L5-Speeds.htm
http://imansolas.freeservers.com/ATC/Speed_APP_Control.html
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Offline Nashwan

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« Reply #269 on: August 27, 2003, 02:24:15 PM »
Just tried the A5 offline, 380 mph at 30,400ft. Perhaps your throttle is faulty?
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