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Offline Replicant

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Yeager, all is not lost.... cannon P51 :)
« on: October 24, 2000, 03:02:00 PM »
Hey Yeager

Well, perhaps you'll have one of these some day... okay, it's not the Merlin P51 but maybe the guns make up for it?!  Mustang IA
   
It was originally supplied to the RAF but the US requested a third go back to the US for their use.  I think there was about 170 - 200 made.

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2000, 03:24:00 PM »
about the same as teh c hog, as just as valid to be in AH. Kinda cool lookin too in a wierd way  

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2000, 03:33:00 PM »
Looks like P-39 in stereoids..

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2000, 05:52:00 PM »
Me love you long time Nexx :^)

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2000, 06:10:00 PM »
That plane was used extensively until there was literally none left to fly.  It was extremely agile and well regarded by it's pilots.  I don't have my reference materials with me, but I believe it was the A-36.



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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2000, 06:49:00 PM »
bloom,

The photo is of the 'Mustang IA' which was the RAF designation - it had 4x20mm Hispano (amount of rounds unknown).  The USAAF requisitioned 57 of these back from the RAF and fitted them with cameras in the rear fuselage and used them as F-6As (sometimes referred to as P51-1s) for tactical reconnaissance (the RAF used them in a similar role within 'Army-Cooperation' squadrons (AC)).  The standard RAF Mustang I had 4x.303s in wings, 2x.50cals in wings and 2x.50cals in lower nose.

The A-36A was basically a P51 with 6x.50 cals and provision for two 500lb bombs on the wings.  The A-36A was used for close support dive bombing.  It was replaced by the P51A which had the uprated 1200hp Allison and only 4x.50cals and racks for bombs or long range tanks.

I have one reference saying that there was only 150 of the Mustang IA, but another saying up to 200.  Anyone else have other info?

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2000, 07:42:00 PM »
Gee, I posted the same pic in colour, and I got no response...  

The RAF got their Mustangs in Feb '42, first combat was in June-August. An American volunteer flying in the RCAF shot down a Fw 190 over Dieppe for the first Mustang kill.

The Mustang Mk I(P-51) was 25-45mph faster than the Spitfire Mk V up to 20,000ft, and at low altitudes it was also faster than any German fighter, including the Fw 190.

The RAF used the Mustang Mk I for low-level armed recon until 1944, when they ran out of servicable airframes.

Pyro should have made this plane instead of the F4U-1C. Since very few people seem to know it existed and was good, it would have been extremely funny to see the "reaction" on the BBS when it filled the arena.  

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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2000, 01:49:00 AM »
Mustang I or Ia would be groovy.

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« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2000, 08:23:00 AM »
I too read that the RAF had a contract for 150 mustang mk1a's. I don't know that there were not subsequent orders for them .

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« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2000, 08:46:00 AM »
Would love a 1A in AH but only with some sort of "generations" planeset.  

yeager... I find that the fifties (and all mg's)work sporadically in AH and other sims for me and a lot of people.   AH is the best so far but.... With the loadout options of AH I see no reason why a person could not take whatever guns were available for that ac.  

If the MG's worked historically at all times for all people then most would want the hig rate of fire and flat trajectory but.... since that is not the case let em choose.   There was a P51b or d with 4 cannon.  Allmost every U.S. fighter tried em.
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« Reply #10 on: November 03, 2000, 07:56:00 PM »
I think yer right Lazs.

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« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2000, 11:19:00 PM »
hey i think i'll end up hateing p51's if they had cannons!
yeager you have been saying you hate the 4xcannons on f4...now you want same on p51?
runstang hell!!!  
seriously tho if you really want one i dont see why you shouldnt get it.that 200 made is the figure now right ?  
<shuffles through LW experimental aircraft>
gotta be 200 of these babies   (hopes)

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« Reply #12 on: November 03, 2000, 11:21:00 PM »
the mustang that scored the first kill over dieppe was also a recon variant.

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« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2000, 11:22:00 PM »
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2000, 04:21:00 AM »
I've just checked my Lend-Lease book and there was only 150 Mustangs IAs made.

Don't worry Hazed, it won't be a runstang, it will be incredibly slower than a P51D and I'd say on a par with a P40.

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