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Offline Badger

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« on: October 24, 2000, 06:13:00 PM »
Hello all.... <S>

Our flightsimsonline eGroups business forum has recently been discussing the following material, which I haven't seen referenced anywhere on this BBS as yet, so I'll publicly ask the obvious questions on behalf of current Aces High subscribers.  Apparently, there is a new HTC (public?) marketing program, which some trial members are now receiving email information on as follows:

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Subject: Aces High $19.95 Special Offer

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You have received this email from HiTech Creations because your email address is included in the Aces High registry of new accounts.

This email was intended for xxx@xxx.com

If you wish to be excluded from Aces High email correspondence, please click on the link below.

 http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/survey.pl?Email=xxx.xxx.com

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Dear John Doe:

Thank you for taking the time to fly with Aces High, the premier WWII multiplayer flight sim game online today.  We enjoyed having you as a guest and are writing to you today because you have been selected to participate in a special market research project.

HiTech Creations, creator of Aces High, is conducting a survey to collect valuable information for our marketing efforts and product development. As part of this effort we have developed a limited time offer for you to join our game online.  We've made arrangements for you to join the ranks of massively multiplayer flying for only $19.95 per month, unlimited months, unlimited flying until you delete this account.  That means unlimited flying at a savings of $10.00 per month just for answering our survey.

Simply complete our 10 question survey and you may take advantage of the special offer. With the upcoming release of 1.05, you'll get to take part in the best naval action available online, complete with player-controlled fleets, carrier planes, shore bombardment, and PT boats.
 http://www.hitechcreations.com/cgi-bin/survey.pl?LoginID=johndoe

To take advantage of this limited offer simply use your LoginID:johndoe and password:freebie to activate your account for just $19.95 per month.  This offer expires as of midnight on 10/30/2000 and is restricted to those individuals who were selected to participate in the survey.

Don't delay, respond today and join the ranks of some of the best pilots online!

Sincerely Yours In Flight,
DOUG 'PYRO' BALMOS

P.S.  You can still help us improve Aces High by completing the survey even if you choose to not take advantage of this offer.

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IMHO as a $29.95/month full paying member, I have some real problems with this marketing move.  A great idea, but badly implemented.

In essence, according to the phrase:

"We've made arrangements for you to join the ranks of massively multiplayer flying for only $19.95 per month, unlimited months, unlimited flying until you delete this account.  That means unlimited flying at a savings of $10.00 per month just for answering our survey."

IMHO, HTC has just created a two tier class system of membership, penalizing current members.  An unknown number of new players who have just signed up and answered a few questions get to save $120 U.S. per year as long as they're a member, while people who have supported HTC all the way throughout the beta and signed up normally, plus have contributed immensely on this BBS to assist in design ideas, identify bugs and contribute free time to help arena operations, will be continuing to pay $29.95/month to play Aces High as long as they're a member.

I have to assume that there simply has to be another unannounced dimension to this program that involves currently subscribed $29.95/month members.  If there is in fact another shoe to drop for current members to get equivalent savings, or I've completely missed the point, then my apologies.  If not, well, what can anyone possibly say......  

The mistake?  It should have been a limited 60 or 90 day lower membership fee, not a lifetime $10/month reduction for five minutes worth of work answering the following questions:

A quick paraphrase of the highly complex survey:

I play other online WWII flight simulator games  Yes  No
I had trouble installing Aces High Yes  No
I had trouble running Aces High Yes  No
I had trouble getting online Yes  No
I had trouble configuring for my first flight Yes  No
I had trouble with my joystick Yes  No
Aces High was easy to get started flying Yes  No
I currently play head-to-head (H2H) Yes  No
I would tell my friends to download Aces High Yes  No
My age group:
Under 20    20 - 30    30 - 40    40 - 50    50 - 60    Over 60


Sometimes you just have to stand and gaze in wonder.  

HT or Pyro, if we all email you in the answers, can we all save $120 U.S. per year?

Regards,
Badger

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Offline Fatty

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« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2000, 06:19:00 PM »
Sounds good to me, I'm paying $10 extra/month to ensure the steady arrival of inexperienced targets.  Plus they save more money with which to buy me beer.  If someone ends up playing for 10 years at a discount, no sour grapes here.

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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2000, 06:25:00 PM »
I don't have a problem with this,,  sounds like a good marketing Idea ( think i'll use this for my business, THANKS FOR THE IDEA!!!!!)

NUTTZ ( and no, i wasn't surveyed )

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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2000, 06:27:00 PM »
I will wait for the smoke to clear before I post.  Yes, methinks that is a good approach.

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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2000, 06:27:00 PM »
I'll tell you what, I had to Canx my account cause my credit card was maxed out.  My financial situation just wouldn't allow the $29.95 per month expense.

If I could get back in at $19.95 a month I would have to talk to the wife, real hard, about this.

Then again, I could hope that this is in response to the $24.95 flat rate from iEN, and iEN drops to $17.95 a month, and then HT drops to $14.95 a month.

I know HT's $29.95 saved me money over iEN, I ain't back at iEN at $24.95 a month.

For $19.95 I would definetly sprechen mit die vife und zee if I could zign back up.

Though $14.95 would be better.

Badger is there a reason you did this on the AH forum, and not Dogfighter or some more nuetral forum?

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« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2000, 06:28:00 PM »
Hey Fatty, when are you at BW3?  I'll come buy you some wings and a beer with my savings.

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« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2000, 06:29:00 PM »
This has nothing to do with Aces High the simulation... this has to do with HTC's business & marketing practices... and being so I don't really know why it is being discussed on this board. What I pay, or someone else pays, is really only HTC's business. People pay different prices for the same cars all the time... It's possible the survey means very little to them... but they are testing to see whether more people bite at 19.95 instead of 29.95. More power to them. If it makes more financial sense to them to charge 19.95 to everyone... I'm sure that is what they will do. Either way... none of our business really.

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« Reply #7 on: October 24, 2000, 06:30:00 PM »
No Big deal to me here either always said Id pay 29.95 a month.

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« Reply #8 on: October 24, 2000, 06:32:00 PM »
Dunno Gadfly, we're about due though.  Don't think I can this weekend, but I'll see when we can get the local boys out and let you (and I guess Udie too, or we'll hurt his feelings) know.

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« Reply #9 on: October 24, 2000, 06:34:00 PM »
My money IS my business and I kinda taste something nasty in this cake....

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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2000, 06:36:00 PM »
 Well. My initial reaction was a blistering fast knee jerk pro-HTC-defense post that more or less would have asked why you hadn't kept this to email with Pyro or HiTech.  Guess I'm so hooked on this sim and company that I'm ready to "put up the dukes" when something comes along that shakes the tree.
 But that's not needed, they're big boys (and gals) and from what I tell they have buckets of confidence so my help isn't needed    Nor would it be warranted. I'd not seen the talk on the Egroup today so this kind of took me by surprise. But I'm hoping hope a good discussion evolves from this that helps clear things up and might show the community here what the method behind the madness is.

 I guess I'm also cringing alot at the thought of another sh&t storm topic gathering steam here. Filters... Game Police..F4U-1C's, Osties, Late war vs Early war... etc, etc.
 I wouldn't turn down a $10 per month drop in price but I REALLY want HTC to succeed, and succeed very well at that. And just as much, maybe more so (a bit selfish I guess) I want the development pace to stay where it was and hopefully not slow down in the least.
 If this is a marketing move that might help bring in folks, then fine. I hope they are good people and not the guy with the unlimited ammo Lancaster types. I'll still happily pay my $30/mo because I feel like I'm getting my value from the product. The product is oustanding, the service is superlative and just look at the lengths that Skuzzy and HTC go to ensure our connections are as good as they can deliver.  If others feel differently well, that's fine too.

  -Westy


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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2000, 06:38:00 PM »
Maybe they are just dipping a toe into the water to see what price point will get them some more volume?  If so, my guess is that they will set the price for everyone at what works.

Lizking

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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2000, 06:44:00 PM »
You must all be the guys that see a house for listed at $150,000 and ask if you can pay more.    God people are weird and it proves how good the economy is.  Can anyone tell me how to get on the mailing list?? So I can kill you for $19.95 a month from now on.  


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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2000, 06:52:00 PM »
Think about this REALLY HARD PEOPLE!!!

WB went flat rate at 24.99$ unlimited while AH was 29.99$...
Now AH comes around to 19.99$ ...
See a patern here ?

I thought so..  


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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2000, 06:54:00 PM »
I want $19.95 a month. I have already paid them alot of money doesn't that mean I should be entitled to the perks BEFORE new members????