Score Stats for Okinawa

[CurtissP-6EHawk]

just fridays scores


A6M5b - 18 kills
F4U-1  - 16 kills

A6M5b - 5 kills
F4U-1D- 11 kills

A6M5b - 47 kills
F6F-5  -  51 kills

A6M5b - 30 kills
FM2     - 22 kills

A6M5b 100 kills 110 deaths

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B5N2  - 1
F4U-1 - 8

B5N2    - 0
F4U-1D - 1

B5N2  - 1
F6F-5 -  8

B5N2  - 0

FM2    - 3

B5N2 2 kills, 20 deaths
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D3A1  - 0
F4U-1 - 1

D3A1    - 0
F4U-1D - 0

D3A1  - 3
F6F-5 - 3

D3A1  - 0
FM2    - 2

D3A1 3 kills, 5 deaths
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Ki-61 - 24
F4U-1- 21

Ki-61    - 12
F4U-1D- 4

Ki-61 - 43
F6F-5- 33

Ki-61 - 43
FM2   - 26

Ki-61 122 kills, 85 deaths


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Ki-67 -23
F4U-1 -47

Ki-67     -3
F4U-1D -6

Ki-67  -16
F6F-5 -64

Ki-67 -7
FM2   -29

Ki-67 43 kills, 146 deaths
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N1K2   -106
F4U-1  -48

N1K2   -44
F4U-1D -24

N1K2   -167
F6F-5  -111

N1K2   -132
FM2     -82

N1K2 449 kills, 265 deaths
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F4U-1    151 kills, 196 deaths
F4U-1D  54 kills,    80 deaths
F6F-5     299 kills, 330 deaths
FM2       181 kills, 263 deaths

A6M5b   138 kills, 133 deaths
Ki-61     173 kills, 141 deaths
N1K2J    669 kills, 407 deaths

Allies  680 kills
IJN     980 kills

Allies are gainning ground but at a great loss of life and planes.

Looks like the N1K2 is not an even plane match for Game Play !!

[Squire]

That cant be right, that darn Ki-61 is out scoring the F4U-1 again, tell it to stop, its supposed to "know its place". Darn uppity IJAAF fighters. Crikey.

[CurtissP-6EHawk]

A6M2      1517 Kills, 1125 Deaths
A6M5b    139 Kills, 135 Deaths
Ki-61      184 Kills,  152 Deaths
N1K2J     680 Kills, 413 Deaths

F4U-1     304 Kills, 341 Deaths
F4U-1D   54, Kills, 80 Deaths
F6F-5     433, Kills, 433 Deaths
FM2        625 Kills, 776 Deaths
P-40B     637 Kills, 832 Deaths
P-40E     501 Kills, 375 Deaths


Remeber some planes were not available at given times.

[brady]

Kill Stats can be misleading and do not show the entire picture, over 166 of the George kills are aganst GV's and CV bomber's, the allies are atacking and this is always a pricy endevor, the Japanese are defending and for the most part this is cheaper in terms of life/KD at least in an open arean like this, non of this at all diminshies the advantages the allies have in a number of areas, it is up to the player to decide how to use his mount, if he chuse to put himself in a posation of disavanatge that is his choice.

  While the numbers above would indacate the Japanese plane set should be neutered because the typical Allied player is pron to bad deschion making, I doubt wheather this would go over well, nore would it be just, or play well.

[Seeker]

Originally posted by brady

 the typical Allied player is pron to bad deschion making,

Incredible.

[Batz]

plus quite few just fly into the ground during their jabo attacks. In guadalcanal this was shown true. The allies that attacked our fleets mostly just killed themselves. Even though they had better planes and larger bomb loads the axis were able to sink more with kates and ju88s.

The ki-61 rarely gets used that way.

These stats never acount for how the planes are used.

Look at the main stats. The p51 is most shot down plane in ah. Does that mean its sucks or any other planes is better? No its means that its used differently and by a different type of player.

Take offense if you must but thats reality.

Drex and fester pretty much whooped me in their f6fs over and over last night. I saw them land 9 and 10 kill sorties. Does that mean the f6f is the greatest plane? No. Its who flies them and how they are flown.

The USN planes in this set up are some of the best jabo planes in the game and will be used as such. In turn they suffer a larger number of deaths.

[Arlo]

Hehe. This the same Batz that'll run to research a player's stats to determine hair color and potato chip preference whenever you're feelin' threatened? Sure ... stats schmatz. I don't ever wanna see you usin' `em in a whine again.

[Batz]

no I use them to demonstrat not skill but how they fly. If you have a kd at .1 and 1 kill per hour then that tells you something.

ie avoids fights

If you have low kd but lotsa kills per hour that tells you something eles etc.

ie loves to fight

Looking at this "plane died more the this one so that means the later one is better" is bs.

Stats dont show player skill any more then plane superiority. As i have said consistantly.

Instead of making stuff up and lying quote me where I have said the opposite.

[ergRTC]

f4u1 and f6f require a tender touch and patience/teamwork.

Niki is a life saver for your turn an burn fun.  

I think this just shows how good of a match up this is.

[CurtissP-6EHawk]

Brady your post make me ROTFL. I can not beleve I herd that. However, you are right about how the planes are used and is why no plane should be removed just because its better. If the plane was used during a given date during WWII, then it should be in the TOD. Where is the F4U-1C? etc etc etc.

Brady the following is not misleading and it is fighter vs fighter.

N1K2 -106
F4U-1 -48

N1K2 -44
F4U-1D -24

N1K2 -167
F6F-5 -111

N1K2 -132
FM2 -82

N1K2 449 kills, 265 deaths

All one has to do is go to the HTC website and surf the score pages.
Fighter vs Fighter, Fighter vs GV etc.

Not only that but the CT is used for nothing but furballing, as you can see the N1K2 rules and is not fit for game play. My point, you guys droped the F4U in a TOD because it was being abused,...lol look at the stats

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Lt. Magee

Last edited by LtMagee on 07-27-2003 at 06:01 AM

[Urchin]

I agree 100%... Take the N1K out.  

The Ki-61 isn't as good, but it is a match for a F4U or F6F assuming the pilots are equal skill.  The F6F or F4U is a match for a N1K if the F6F/F4U pilot is 3 or 4 times better.

EDIT:  In the CT teams defense, there pretty much has to be one "easy-mode" plane in any given set.  People don't LIKE "fair" fights.  If there isn't a plane that can be flown with little to no effort, then your attendence is going to dwindle to none.

[Arlo]

Originally posted by Batz
no I use them to demonstrat not skill but how they fly. If you have a kd at .1 and 1 kill per hour then that tells you something.

ie avoids fights

If you have low kd but lotsa kills per hour that tells you something eles etc.

ie loves to fight

Looking at this "plane died more the this one so that means the later one is better" is bs.

Stats dont show player skill any more then plane superiority. As i have said consistantly.

Instead of making stuff up and lying quote me where I have said the opposite.

I love how your post starts out as a dedicated defense of your ability to divine any specific thing you wish to about a player's character based on two elements of their game stats and peters out into a whine that I'm lying.

Sorry, Casey Moans but your dung-powered "Stats don't prove anything unless I'm the one interpreting them" train of thought has derailed. But don't let that stop you from shoveling poop into the turd-box while the wheels spin. Keep a full head of stationary steam, son.

[ergRTC]

Guys, if nikis are giving you problems, than I dont see why you wouldnt want the a6m5b out as well.

If the nik is giving you fits that must mean you are turning with them, and if you are doing that, than the zero is more than a match for any allied plane ever built.

F4u1s are nearly unstoppable when used correctly (trail formations, teamwork, and staying fast if you are alone).  Nikis just turn well, compress well, and are much slower than the f4u at all alts.

If you are t and b in an f4u1 or f6f, you deserve to be frustrated.

[skernsk]

I much prefer to fly the zeke over the N1k.  That sucker truns way better.

As for dealing with the N1K.  We downed 20 of them in the last squad op frame.  Find a friend and work them.  I notice almost every scrap has been below 5K.  The N1K performace decreases as it climbs.  What are the USN aircraft doing scraping on the deck anyway?

[Squire]

It doesnt matter, every single time the two are matched up the Ki-61 comes out as a credible fighter, its hasnt failed yet. Not in CAP, not in the CT, not in Snaps, not in Squad Ops...

Let the excuses flow, lets hear em...could I get them alphabetically?

Poor Ki-61, its silver too, ya, and ez to spot, thats it...its a deathtrap, ya...doesnt have an approved airbag either...